Well, it's finally happened, Justice Dept handed down Seditious Conspiracy indictments

There were firearms in the crowd and none of them were used. Kinda strange behavior for people planning on violently overthrowing the government.

 

Seriously? Are you really that uninformed?

 

Chris Christie proved himself to be a fool in 2016. He has the support of basically no one. He couldn't even win his home state. Michelle Obama isn't running. Anyone wanting to be president is as stupid as a box of rocks and she isn't that stupid. As bad as Carter was back in 1980, he still was the nominee of his party. Expect the same with Biden as long as he is healthy. Harris has too many negatives.

 

LOL. No, it is only a false comparison to those wearing colored glasses who can't see past their own partisanship.

 

He was asking you about mass killing because you inappropriately brought Manson into the thread, Charles I presume. I read the indictment. I didn't see anything remotely like that mentioned.

Please don't, as is customary here, confuse my and his reading of the charges with a defense to obstruction of the transfer of power.

If there was a conspiracy to murder a single person by these defendants, the government would have said so.

 

Correct.

And the American Revolution wasn't accomplished by a petition for redress of grievances, either. If the American Revolutionaries had lost the war, the signers of the Declaration would have been hanged by the neck until dead. Every one of them.

 

So whom do you see running?

Harris' negatives are the reason I say Christie would defeat her. You disagree?

 

He was a nut. Nothing more. That's why thus "insurrection" was a joke.

 

I did laugh when some four years ago that woman who sued Trump for having sex with here when Melania as pregnant..can't think of her name now, told the court that she could clearly remember Trump's hair flapping backwards and forwards as he proved his alpha male credentials.
Just the thought of it still makes me laugh.

 

Clearly you have a misconception as to what a hoax is and is not. A hoax is an intended fabrication, a big prank.

No, the Russia investigation wasn't a hoax, there was substantial predication for the investigation, as determined by the IG Horowitz.
(apparently you are not paying attention, but listening only to the right wing echo chamber) especially since Trump was obstructing justice to try and stop it, giving more credence to the suspicion.

Now, having established that FACT, the purpose of an investigation is one of three possible outcomes, any one of which, when achieved, realizes a SUCCESSFUL investigation

1. Clear the air of suspicion.
2. Provide data which might lead to indictments, subject to DOJ policy (in this special case, a report to Congress)
3. Combination of the above.

It was #3, given that Trump was cleared of suspicion of coordinating conspiratorially with Russia, but there were many indictments of key players in his administration, and clear cut cases of obstruction were reported.

Kavanaugh's investigation was predicated by a legitimate claim by Ford. In fact, I still believe her over Kavanaugh.
But, the one BIG reason I think Kavanaugh is not fit for a seat on the Supreme Court was his petty rant during the hearing. No Justice in history ever stooped to such petty partisan rants as the one he gave. "Those Democrats are out to get me' yadda ****ingi yadda blah blah blah, it was nauseating. That Republicans would back such a man destroys their credibility. Well, hell, they voted for Trump, so, there ya go.

As for the Catholic thing, you can have that one, I am not knowledgeable about it.

However, most PTA parents aren't terrorists, but some of them are engaging in death threats and intimidation against educational and and then we have republican operatives giving death threats and intimidation of election officials, which is the bigger story you forgot to mention, and this is fact and it's rather widespread. Evidence supplied on request.

I'll file that in the wishful thinking file.

 

yes, and excuse me, but I get BLM riots, of which I know of no democrat that approves of any illegal activity shoved into my face as DEMOCRAT RIOT, caused by DEMOCRAT mayors every frickin' day of the week, every week of the year No, the rioters are enraged by cop brutality. The fact that most blacks vote dem is an INCIDENTAL fact, the fact that riots occur in cities, where the urban areas are, is an INCIDENTAL fact (what, they are going to occur in rural areas? Give me a break).

The courtesy you want dems to give to your side, your side most definitely is not giving dems the same courtesy.

You know the old saying.....

Do unto others, etc

What goes around comes around,

What you sew you shall reap,

etc, etc, etc.

 

Your not the editor here .... Please stop editing my posts.......
If I am not allowed then neither will you..... If that was way it was most of some post that take up 81/2 pages of garbage would be "edited out"...

 

No, but you seem to be "THAT" evasive. Seriously!

 

When you identify a prominent Republican offering to assist Jan 6 rioters, let me know.

Meanwhile, our wonderful vice president (a Democrat, if memory serves) was calling for people to help bail out rioters in Minneapolis. I wonder what they were doing in jail?

In case you don't remember....

https://mobile.twitter.com/kamalaharris/status/1267555018128965643?lang=en

 

Also, I don't care if Democrats continue to call Republicans the party of insurrection. I say pile it on, the more hysterical the better.

Independents know it's horse excrement. And that's really all that matters.

 

Probably for the same reason Charles Manson was indicted and convicted.

Oh, his emails prove he was the chief planner, as I understand it, which is why he is being indicted, as leader of the group.

 

I don't think it was Trump's intention for his supporters to act out violently, but he is definitely at least partially responsible for what happened, in that he did not follow the basic duty of promoting the peaceful transition of power. He in fact discouraged his supporters from accepting said transition of power, and instead encouraged them to prevent that transition from taking place. What happened on January 6th didn't with any other presidential candidate, but it very well could have if they did not do their part in encouraging their followers to accept the results and allow the peaceful transition to take place.

This wasn't a noble act from any of these prior candidates, but is the basic minimum standard we should expect from anyone who runs for public office. I do not believe what Trump did was a criminal act, but he did fail his basic duty as an elected official. What happened was the direct result of him telling his supporters to not accept the outcome of the election and to prevent the transition from taking place

 

Garland, in his speech, declared he was going to indict, wherever the evidence leads, but starting with the small, and working his way up the food change. The big ones will be last.

So, patience, Le Chef, and the fully cooked meal will be heading your way, we're just nibbling on the hors d'oeuvres right now.

Yeah, you forgot that that fund was for wrongfully charged protestors. See anything in tweet about 'rioters' ?

No. But, of course, you're going to twist it.

 

A word some liberal don't understand.... "allegedly"... some other words that go right over some liberals heads....charged, indictment, and tried and convicted in a court of law by a jury of their peers.....

but this incitement will be the buzz word between now and 2024... it will be the distraction away from ..

Biden putting people in cages... while his administration and his former boss are the ones building the cages.
Biden paying paying contractors millions to not build the wall, while Americans are paying to build one around his house.
Biden claims there was not a vaccine before he came into office, when he had already gotten a vaccination shot himself before and the vaccine were distributed starting a month before he took office.... Thanks to Warp Speed..
Biden who's son's laptop that implicate himself in very shady foreign deals...

But liberals will go back to the indictment buzz word anytime any stuff like this is ever brought up...

 

Hmmm, I think you'll have to provide the quote where you have incorrectly come to this conclusion.

Let's keep it within American borders.

Are you saying there are circumstances IN AMERICA, given the realistic state of American Politics (which means, please, no flights of Nazi or Pol Pot fantasies which are unrealistic for America, currently), where rebelling against the government is justified?

 

LOL, of course Kamala and those in jail claim the arrestees were wrongfully charged!! And do you see any qualification (exclusion for rioters) in her tweet?

Or do you seriously believe that municipal police arrest people for merely peacefully marching?

Minnesota Freedom Fund. Gotta love it!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost...ala-harris-freed-man-charged-with-murder/amp/

I'm happy to see anyone criminally aiding and abetting the 1/6 rioters charged and punished. But it has to be proved beyond reasonable doubt, in court, not on this forum.

 

Whatever

 

The comparison did not have anything to do with the substance of the indictments, it had to do with the narrow concept of being indicted without being present, where the Oath Keepers indictment and the Manson indictment have that much in common.

To go on about killings, and such, is pettifogging the point.

 

I can't, which is why I oppose Antifa and the burning of police precincts and the attempted arson of a U.S. courthouse in ... Portland, I think. (There are so many of them, n'est-ce pas?). And yes, the riot at the Capitol.

Can you unequivocally condemn the George Floyd riots? Or must we consider the root causes (police brutality) and thereby excuse them?

 

Then we need not bring Charles Manson into it.

Who did that?