Racism towards whites has hit my home state.

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  1. Thedimon

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    And racism was alive and well in Europe deep into 20th century.
    Ever heard of holocaust?
     
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    No, this is not true at all.

    The safety net features we have do not provide all the solutions available to those who have insurance, for just one example.

    Another example is Medicare. If you can afford Medicare, that's good, and if not you can get help to be able to do so. But, remember that if you have more money, there are several additional plans that ensure you can get better medical attention than Medicare will give you.

    Insurance companies, including Medicaid, Medicare, etc., ALL have service cutoff points that you can step over if you have more money.

    The other point I was making is that hospitals and other providers are required by law to carry out their practices using techniques that are incredibly expensive - even though good care could be provided for less. That is, our system is DESIGNED for those with more money - followed by various features intended to let "the rest" play along to the best they can.
     
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    True dat. Any racial disparity in the COVID statistics is likely due to the fact that blacks are more likely to be diabetic, have heart disease AND more likely to be obese. Studies that account for comorbidities usually eliminate any disparity. Blacks arent more likely to be affected by COVID. Those who are diabetic, have heart disease or obese, both black and white, are more likely to be affected by COVID. Giving a healthy black athlete preference in COVID treatments in some ill fated attempt to achieve racial equity in the impacts of COVID is the heights of absurdity. That treatment for the black athlete will do nothing for the racial disparity in the impacts of COVID. That black guy would of been fine. with or without the treatment. Its ONLY possible impact upon any racial disparity will be if it produces 1 more dead white guy who is denied treatment because they wanted to virtue signal giving preference to the healthy athlete, for no other reason than the black color of his skin.
     
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    It is true. I know a guy that quit his job when his wife became pregnant just to get on medicaid. She was pregnant with twins. In the end that bill would have been over 200k. They were too excited to come into the world and tried to come only 6 months into the pregnancy. You should have seen how small they were. One died and the other survived.

    I’m glad he had the assistance but his way of going about it to get on it I was a bit shocked over. He had a good job and just to get on medicaid he literally quit it. A job that paid 75k a year even. So off of my experience I have seen them pay the whole bill and not care if you quit your job to get it.
     
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    That’s exactly what they want and only the white liberals are too dumb enough to not see it. What white liberals fail to realize is that they will get stream-rolled right over too.
     
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    Nope.
     
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    None of what you want is ever going to blossom here. Your population is far too small. If anything, we may see Hispanics take the majority of the population in the coming decades but the black population will remain stagnant. Gotta love that abortion, huh?
    If/when Hispanics take majority, don’t think for a second they will bend a knee to blacks like the weak, pathetic white liberals will. Hispanics won’t put up with it.
     
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    Mexicans believe in conservative ideals more so than the bleeding heart ones. Have you ever been to a **** fight? Go to one of those and you will have no doubt of that.
     
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    Yes. People who have good jobs still can't afford our medical system.

    I think I pointed that out.

    I'd also point out that in every other country in the world, that person you mention would NOT have had to do that. And, the reason is that they see healthcare as a right, not just an incredibly expensive product that so many citizens can not afford.
     
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    According to the Wisconsin health department, whites make up 81 percent of the state's population but account for 84 percent of its COVID deaths.

    And while blacks, Hispanics, and Asians are more likely than whites to be hospitalized for COVID, they are less likely to die of it, according to a recent analysis of 4.3 million patients.
     
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    "Black race was not associated with higher in-hospital mortality than white race," an analysis in the New England Journal of Medicine concluded, "after adjustment for differences in sociodemographic and clinical characteristics on admission." A study of Maryland and District of Columbia hospitals likewise found no relationship between race and severe disease "after adjustment for clinical factors."
     
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    Racists are impervious to facts.

    YES: ‘Shouldn’t Be Mentioned’: Denzel Washington Has Grown Tired of Hollywood’s Diversity Obsession.

    “From his point of view, the Macbeth and The Book of Eli star gets that diversity is good and should be celebrated. But, the fact that pop culture is fixated on superficial characteristics like race means we are losing focus on the real talents, abilities and humanity in people of all races and identity groups.”

    Hear! Hear!
     
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    Wow - you found a rich person who is just fine with the way things are!!!

    I'm impressed - maybe.
     
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    This: "fixated on superficial characteristics like race means we are losing focus on the real talents, abilities and humanity in people of all races and identity groups" is a much more broadly accepted, and accurate view than The Big Lie that all white people are racists.

    You can't possibly be unaware of that, are you?
     
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    You cannot refute the empirical reality concerning racial disproportion in hospitalizations and deaths due to Covid:


    You may as well rave against the greater rate of hospitalizations and deaths among the elderly or the obese. They also have been statistically confirmed as significant factors.
    CELEBRITY ADVOCATE FOR VACCINATION AND BOOSTER SHOTS
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    "In the prioritization of at-risk Americans,
    I get two metrics to favor ME!"

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    "I don't, but it's only right to protect
    the most vulnerable among us."
     
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    You can refute it. The issues that make them more susceptible to death is they’re more likely to be overweight and have heart issues. It has nothing to do with their skin color. Health issues are the only things that need to be taken into account. Show me a scientific study that suggests whites have some sort of super ability against covid

    from your article

    you can’t tell me that whites can’t be apart of these same risks mentioned.
     
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    Several demographic metrics predispose some Americans to a greater risk of hospitalization and death from Covid. (advanced age, obesity, pregnancy, diabetes, cardiovascular disease, chronic lung disease, neuro-developmental disorders, race, ethnicity.) Those risk factors that increase an American's chances of being hospitalized and/ or dying from Covid are not mutually exclusive.

    Empirical data compiled and analyzed by public health experts have identified what those factors are.

    You can deny any of them that you don't like, but the statistical reality is what it is unless and until alternative, credible data is presented.
     
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    Until I see what specific cell or genetic makeup of whites makes them some sort of super power against COVID I call bs. This info you’re getting is just say so. No evidence behind it whatsoever from a racist administration. Your ability to fall for it is the shocking part.
     
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    Tell me… why are hospitals and states being sued for discrimination if there is such proof? Why have they dropped the race based assessment in multiple venues because of these lawsuits of discrimination? Why has Biden been sued and lost for racial discriminatory practices in farming? And now is being sued for this policy? This admin is as racist as they get. And you bought it and are defending it.
     
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    I know of no one making such a claim regarding cellular or genetic predispositions.

    Age, obesity, pregnancy, diabetes, cardiovascular disease, chronic lung disease, neuro-developmental disorders, race, and ethnicity are among the factors that place an individual at greater risk for hospitalization and/or death du to Covid.
     
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    If you believe what you claim is true, please document such cases so that we can properly assess any legal injunctions against recognizing any or all such confirmed risk factors.
     

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