Michigan Democrats criticized after dismissing parents' role in public education

I wouldn't be quite so sure about that. I deal with teens and tween-agers, and if there's one thing you can say about them that's an absolute, it's that they love being rebels/rebellious. And in the United States of Wokestan, what's a sure-fire way of being a rebel ...?

I'm not saying I'm seeing a huge wave of Reaganauts, but I am seeing - something.

 

BS Spin.

From the OP: Not sure where this ‘parents-should-control-what-is-taught-in-schools-because-they-are-our-kids’ is originating

Terry McAuliffe: “Yeah, I stopped the bill that I don’t think parents should be telling schools what they should teach,”

Also, NO ONE wants to omit slavery. That is a leftwing talking point that is COMPLETELY and UTTERLY false. Same goes for acknowledging that there were racist laws...HELLO! Jim Crow IS being taught in schools and NO ONE has tried to get rid of it.

Parents DO have a right to have a say in what is taught their children. Like it or not. And they have had a say since schools started being made public.

And the 1619 project is taught in schools as FACTUAL HISTORY. And it is framed in such a way as to make it sound as if the ONLY reason that the US was founded was based upon the idea of Whites are better than blacks and to preserve slavery. Which is FALSE. In fact slavery had NOTHING to do with the Revolutionary War. In fact the US wasn't even around in 1619...and wouldn't be for well over another hundred years. Even the concept of the US wasn't even thought of in 1619. Additionally some of the people interviewed for the 1619 Project objected to how the author used some of their words while not providing any other context that the author was given.

 

It objectively is.

 

That's a lie. The Right is all for teaching history. What it opposes is racist Neo-Marxist hate propaganda (CRT) and revisionist tracts (1619 Project) that masquerade as history substituting for history.

And now we get another lie - RWers want to stop teaching factual history because it may show some of our forefathers for who they really were - and a misrepresentation of what CRT teaches, which is straight-up racism. Getting back to the lie, it's Leftists who don't want to teach actual history - they want to teach LW ideological and political propaganda that masquerades as history.

That's what CRT claims to examine. The 1619 Project claims that it "aims to reframe the country's history", and it certainly tries to do that.

Neither one of them are facts.

Critical Race THEORY (are we catching on yet?) is just the racist offspring of Marxist Critical Theory, but CRT replaces class warfare with race warfare.

The 1619 Project is "long-form journalism" written by Leftist hack Nikole Hannah-Jones and the Leftist hacks at The New York Times, and as history it falls flat on its face from the get-go when it makes the ahistorical revisionist claim that slavery in American began in 1619 at Jamestown, when in fact 1) slavery existed in America long before the first Europeans arrived in the New World and 2) the first African slaves were brought to America by the Spanish at San Miguel de Gualdape in 1526 - not the English at Jamestown 93 years later.

And here's what Martin Luther King, Jr.'s chief of staff Wyatt Walker had too say about the racist Neo-Marxist hate propaganda you're defending:

One thing I've learned from this kerfuffle over CRT is that most of the Leftists who defend it don't know what the **** they're talking about and don't know **** about history.

 

Rioting for the sake of rioting. That is what rebellious people do. They loved 2020 for all the riots.

If you think teenagers are becoming bible-thumping conservatives by their own initiative, then you are probably seeing a pipe-dream.

 

You somehow missed the part about how I'm not seeing Reaganauts.

 

Oh the Democrats are expanding. The boomers are dropping off the planet and the liberal youth are becoming the majority.

 

Are these the same polls y'all call fake news when they don't favor your party? LOL

 

same polls i call fake because they over sample democrats

 

Cool story bro... the Latinos are shifting away from the Democrats, Gen Z hates Democrats, and the Millennials are finally figuring out how bad it is when Democrats are in power. You have no chance. You want an account bet over the 2022 elections? Democrats will lose both houses. Do you care to put your account up? I will. Who has conviction of the truth and who is just writing bullcrap? We all know you won't do it.

 

Objectively requires facts. Show yours.

 

But you say nothing when they tell the kids they can’t wear shorts, sandals, mid riff shirts, and the like. Hypocritical much?

 

Dude again, I already told you we all know the GOP will take both chambers in 2022. Why do you want me to bet if water is wet? LOL

I am talking the future of our Country. If you actually believe that the youth and minorities in our Country are favoring the GQP, I have ocean front property in Vegas I would love to sell you, sight unseen. If you are as strong in your convictions that the GQP are the majority, buy my property! If not, then we all know you're full of it. LOL

 

You have a habit if saying stuff and never backing it up, so its safe to assume you just make it up and hope some people believe it. Gen-Z, like youngest generations in the past, are progressive. In some areas, like the West, only 40% of Gen-Z are white, so as long as GOP keeps treating Latinos like criminals, there is no way they get the support from Gen-Z. Also, no one disliked Trump more than Gen-Z, and now GOP wants to run him again in 2024.


On the Cusp of Adulthood and Facing an Uncertain Future: What We Know About Gen Z So Far
.....among Americans ages 13 and older found that, similar to Millennials, Gen Zers are progressive and pro-government, most see the country’s growing racial and ethnic diversity as a good thing, and they’re less likely than older generations to see the United States as superior to other nations.

A Pew Research Center survey conducted in January of this year found that about a quarter of registered voters ages 18 to 23 (22%) approved of how Donald Trump is handling his job as president, while about three-quarters disapproved (77%).

......... As a result, this generation is projected to become majority nonwhite by 2026, according to Census Bureau projections. In some regions of the U.S., Gen Z has already crossed this threshold. In the West, only 40% of Gen Zers are non-Hispanic white. Just as many are Hispanic, while 4% are black, 10% are Asian and 6% are some other race. In the South, 46% of Gen Zers are non-Hispanic white
https://www.pewresearch.org/social-...ain-future-what-we-know-about-gen-z-so-far-2/

 

the youth don't stay young for long they grow up and realize the real world not the utopia propaganda fed to them in liberal run school system
and every year more and more minorities take the red pill and come to the rationalization that democrat have lied to them for decades promise them better lives but just make it worse by forcing dependency
the fastest growing minority Hispanics are trickling over to republicans

GOP continues growth in Hispanic support, new poll shows – American Digest

 

GOP continues growth in Hispanic support, new poll shows – American Digest

 

What "perversion" ?

Slavery didn't exist ? The civil war wasn't about keeping slaves ?

 

WTF is this ?

"fact check the fact checkers" ? You mean, change the message to something I like

 

Don't get your hopes up. The black population and Latinos along with young folks will never favor the GQP.

 

Don't bother. We've seen LW posters do bets before and they never follow thru when they lose.

 

Everything? I didn't know the flat earth theory is a republican thing.
I've also frequently heard that the KKK is a democratic thing.
But I'm not too old to learn.

I responded to the idea of "Parents should insist upon our rights to have a major input into our children’s education."
I disagree. Since a lot of parents are simply idiots. I gave examples. Your random retard -as in severely mentally challenged / dead low IQ- who needs help with everyday things, is able to be a parent. We need to protect our children against the idea's of utter idiots. Teachers learned a trade. And that's where the issue should be addressed with what is appropriate to learn at what age etc. If you want an example. I am aware that there is a witch hunt of conservative Christians against books that contain LGBTQ information... like it's the 1950/1960's all over again... as in:

 

Kind of reminds me of the old saying if you're not a liberal in your twenties you have no heart and if you're not a conservative by your 30s you have no brain.

Of course children are susceptible to the message of free stuff but when they grow up a little bit and get some common sense they realize a lie when they see it

 

There are also a lot of people who claim the corona virus is a myth. I mean... science deniers are all over. And that's the problem with them lot having a voice about what children get taught. Although I would applaud a teacher who incorporated a current issue about flat earthers into an experiment and prove them how they are wrong with math / history / science. It's not that hard to do.... to just repeat an experiment that the ancient Greeks did. With that, they calculated how big this ball we're all living on.

 

I've done that experiment several times, although I didn't reference the flat-earthers.

 

Oh right. You can indeed go like that. The problem is, there is not enough time to teach children what happened everywhere in the world in great detail. And so it becomes obvious that the most relevant things are taught, as in teaching American history to American children. And in that American history it just is that the whites violently oppressed the black community into slavery. Slavery that involved raping the women and selling the children to make to work elsewhere till they all died... and they changed that to oppress them into 2nd class citizens till about 20 years after the end of WWII. A person like Biden and Trump vividly know how that all went down. It's that white generation who personally benefitted of it.

Such American things are rather far more relevant for an American child compared to what happened in rural Uganda.
I would suspect this would be such a non-issue. But here you are making it into an issue. Probably because it hurts the feels.