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We have become a nation crippled with fear...

Discussion in 'Australia, NZ, Pacific' started by m2catter, Jan 20, 2022.

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  1. m2catter

    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    Our WA premier just announced no opening of WA boarders:

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-20/wa-border-opening-delayed/100771492

    Our Federal Government sent Djokovic back home, for possibly being an outspoken antivax campaigner on covid 19 jabs. We have all become crippled with fear, this is working in the governments interest, isn't it? My God, have we become a country of Sissis, can't we speak our mind anymore? And can't we tolerate the small number of unwilling vaxers? Any thoughts?

    cheers
     
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    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    Agree with Djokovic.

    Not sure about WA. They are ripe for high fatalities there, as there has been no wave yet. Seems prudent to hold out as long as possible (within reason).

    I think your sissis comment is far-fetched. Even been on a ventilator?
     
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  3. m2catter

    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    1 out of 1000 facilities of omicron in Europe.
    Venitlator?
    Whom do you trust?
    Cats
     
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    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Donor

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    Those who write in complete, intelligible sentences.:beer:
     
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    F*** Djokovic, Rogers and any one else who thinks their s*** is so sweet that the common rules of decency doesn't apply to them.
     
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    You have to realise that just about the only major hospitals in WA are in Perth and they take retrieval’s from the entire state. Given that there are a LOT of isolated very vulnerable communities in WA that is a recipe for disaster. Some of the choke is lack of nursing staff. Can’t get agency nurses for love or money. Too many are either vaccinating or doing testing or working in COVID wards in Victoria and NSW. The other, huge, massive issue is aeromedical transport. It takes time to transport patients from say, Broome to Perth and I gather there are problems https://ww2.health.wa.gov.au/Improving-WA-Health/Aeromedical-Services-WA-Inquiry

    https://acem.org.au/getmedia/54f77d...EM_Submission_WA_Aeromedical_Services_Inquiry

    WA is still only at 78% vaccinated with a hugely vulnerable population in the First Nations people, who if they succumb like the Navajo and the Inuit had a death rate three times that of non-indigenous
     
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    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    Me - I am an expert
     
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    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    Remember? He had a valid visa.....
     
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    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    And keep WA shut forever?
    I wouldn't trust our health experts to administer toilet paper.
    One single case, and an entire hospital on the brink of collapse?
    Cats
     
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    Does having a valid visa mean you don't have to abide by the laws/rules of the country you're going to?
     
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    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    Authorities granted him an exemption.
    See, it is quite simple, we have elections coming, and our PM wants to show off with his boarderforce and tough handling.
    Very scary such a tennis player....
     
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    Big Bad Government and the authoritarians who support it are a far greater threat to humanity than any pandemic.

    “Thus, for example, although appeals to his reason or to his sympathy are likely to be lost on him, appeals to his conventionality or to his submissiveness toward authority might be effective. (But it should be clearly understood that such activity would in no way reduce his conventionality or authoritarianism or his fascist potential.) Similarly it is consistent with what we know of the potentially fascist personality to suppose that he would be impressed by legal restraints against discrimination, and that his self-restraint would increase as minority groups became stronger through being protected. (But it must be remembered that it is the usual practice of the fascist to dress his most antidemocratic actions in a legalistic cloak.).
    THE AUTHORITARIAN PERSONALITY, Studies In Prejudice, T.W. Adorno, Else Frankel-Brinswik, Daniel J. Levinson, R. Nevitt Sanford, W. W. Norton Company, Inc. 1969. pp. 973,974.
     
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    No he didn’t and rules should not be broken just because you are some sort of star

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    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    But the “authorities” were NOT a government body

    You do know France has also brought in an even stricter mandate

    https://7news.com.au/sunrise/on-the...doubt-after-vaccine-rules-confirmed-c-5348651
     
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    What goes on in the land down under is not much any of my business but I will tell you that you all are not alone when it comes to running a nation of fear.

    here in the U.S. we used to have leaders that said “give me freedom or give me death”, “there is nothing to fear but fear itself”…. Now we have leaders that tell you to hide from your loved ones on thanksgiving and Christmas. To go and live life in fear of the unvaccinated. It almost makes me sick because our kids will remember this. This is an example of fear we are setting. I haven’t worn a mask now in damn near a year and proud of it. I’m vaccinated but they still say I should wear a mask. I say F them. I won’t live in fear and if a company doesn’t like my maskless face I can go somewhere else. I’m done with these rules even if my sissy government is not.
     
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    Could be

    WA has announced a huge infrastructure spend on WA hospitals and I am betting it is down to lack of isolation capability. What would happen if the air conditioning of a hospital were all on one circuit like a cruise ship?
     
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    And you have paid and paid and paid

    Over 3/4 of a million dead because of??? Too invested in “FREEDUMBS” to do simple things like wear a mask. Keep it up mate - the death toll amongst republicans has been so high that it may affect the outcome of future elections
     
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    I live my life freer than you and that’s good enough for me and I do plan on keeping it up.
     
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    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    According to the WHO we have a death rate (covid 19) globally of around 1.7%, the same as with other flu types.
    Means covid is a flu, but not the pest.
    If people want to get vaccinated, fine with me.
    If they don't, we should accept this.
     
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    McGowan has had two years to fix the hospital system and he's done sweet **** all. We had ambulance ramping a few weeks ago with ZERO COVID cases.

    McGowan needs to pay, hard.
     
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    m2catter Well-Known Member

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    Couldn't agree more....
     
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    Seeing that the vast majority of deaths(95%) from covid involve comorbidities. Then only those with comorbidities such as cancer, diabetes, heart disease, obesity, old age, etc. should get vaccinated, if it is to be mandated. Even though it is wise to be vaccinated, the remainder should be free to choose.
     
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    ~ We are dumbed-down by "news" media and social "entertainment" ... :bleh: :rage:'
     
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    Support Australia FIRST.

    Natural Gas & Minerals.
    Agri produce.
    The Economy geared to benefit regular
    Aussie folk.

    How About Some GRAND Solar Powered
    water desalination projects.     eh

    There is an Aussie Bipartisan Choir
    preaching globalism at Aussie people's cost and instilling
    the belief Australia needs the globe . .     .


    The Parliamentary system is NOT Democratic!
    And for decades Aussie gov't policy & the economy
    remain in step regardless of party affiliation.


    Moi     :oldman:
    Australia First, for Australians





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