Supreme Court clears the way for House to get Trump White House documents

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  1. Sage3030

    Sage3030 Well-Known Member

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    An impeachment is a charge, not a verdict. You’ll have to look to the verdict to find out if it was valid. If guilty, valid. If not guilty, not valid.
     
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    Bribery is clearly stated as grounds for impeachment. Do you have a problem with that? Of course you don't. You're a huge fan of Congressional Investigations of Presidents and Former Presidents. Well, you've just made it a little bit easier.

    Thank you!
     
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    Presidential Executive Privilege IS the topic here and it was just dealt a HUGE blow, that is REALITY and it will effect a former and future former President. Did you not ever realized that in your efforts to seek your vengeance against Trump?
     
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    He fought it tooth and nail and ONLY conceded when he had no other avenues. Recall he even RETRACTED his first concession and then spent weeks trying to get a different slate of electors that would vote for him. He tried to steal it by getting the FSC to illegal and un-FL-constitutionally void the certification of the election that had already been done, and the electors AFTER he had already lost in the lower courts
     
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    That was far, far from all he could do, and you know it.

    I've addressed it in detail. Happy to do so again if you forgot.

    Sources?

    Trump is the first to take it to this extreme, and I've already addressed the false equivalences. No other candidate has tried to recruit the DOJ, lawmakers, state election officials, and the VP to reverse the results of an election based on internet rumors. Deal with it.

    It's his right to be an idiot, but it isn't his right to try to reverse the results of an election based on his idiocy.

    I've repeatedly stated the reasons why. Please read. It's okay to criticize the Dear Leader. Live with it.
     
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  6. Bluesguy

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    And now anything is valid for impeachment and is to be used as a political weapon thank you Democrats.
     
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    There was no legitimate Executive Privilege claim when it came to these documents. Why are you scared by the concept that no one is above the law?
     
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    There were two impeachments. Both were valid.
     
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    What are you saying is not valid in what I said. Biden opened the door for any future President to do what he did, certainly you are not arguing that are you?
     
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    According to past history there was, Presidents including former controlled their documents as I showed months ago under the Presidential Records act. Now it stands that the current President controls all the documents and communications of all the former Presidents and that means a Rep Congress can start investigations into Obama and Biden and a Republican President can release all their formerly protected documents.

    If this is a legal matter then this committee is acting unconstitutionally. But then you don't about that either and I'm sure Republican Congresses in the future will decide to become law enforcement just as this committee and operate without due process against Dems.
     
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    Valid as claimed by the Dems and the Reps will declare theirs equally valid.
     
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    We could always try examining both declarations using reason and logic? Maybe?
     
  13. Bluesguy

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    What else could he have done, he had no legal jurisdiction to do anything about the violence at the Capital.

    You can claim you "addressed it" but doesn't change the historical fact Dems have tried to get EC electors decertified in the past.

    What are you denying and be specific. What do you think happened in Florida 2000?

    Many have tried legal challenges to elections using the DOJ, state election officials and other high officials they believed had the authority to act. They were not internet rumours to Trump.

    And his right to legally challenge election results no matter the idiocy of some of the claims. And I have asked you here to be specific about what it is you think they will find in these documents and you can't give me anything. Just more, wait and see.
     
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    I am quite familiar with them and the purpose of the impeachment and removal attempts and I don't expect you to apply any reason or logic to it just as you are not even now.
     
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    Happy to talk about the justifications at any time. The only people running away and trying to replace debate with bumper sticker slogans are the Trumpists.
     
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    WTF? You are terrible at projections. Gotcha........:applause:
     
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    Sounds good to me! Why would you think I’m for more govt secrecy?
     
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    Cause you have a pic of Biden in your Profile ? Just a guess .. :)
     
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    yes
    you are exactly correct
    BUT

    the corporate law firms accept the information given to them is true and correct

    for example..I tell my accountant I made one million dollars and show him one account that has the million earnings

    but I fail to tell the same accountant about different account I have that have millions in deposits

    the accountant can only defend the information he/she has been given and then vetted

    if one accounting firm is given different information than the other

    then at least one law firm has been given fraudulent information

    in trumps case I would bet he gave all his law firms bogus information

    this is known as a chinese fire drill!!

    lol
     
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  20. Arkanis

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    This is not true.

    The riot started at 1:10pm, Trump's first Tweet comes at 2:24pm.

    Are you going to try to make me believe that this Tweet was to calm the crowd?



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    His second Tweet is written at 3:13 p.m... two hours after the riot began.

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    Krebs, Wray, Barr and so many others told him that there was no fraud.

    From November 6, 2020, Trump surrounded himself with conspiracy theorists and lackeys who helped him in the preparation of a coup.

    History will remember nothing else, and you know it.
     
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    Trump kept refusing to concede long after Gore did. If Gore had followed the Trump doctrine, he wouldn't have conceded even then. When did he retract his concession? When did he try to get an alternate slate of electors afterward? When did he try to void the entire state (as Trump did for multiple states)?
     
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    So what? Gore tried to have a different set of electors and fought tooth and nail to try and get it even after he lost in court. The election HAD BEEN CERTIFIED, the electors chosen. He got the FSC, without any legal or constitutional authority, to vacate that certification so he could have his selective recounts to FIND MORE VOTES. You know like Trump was trying to find more votes where he lost. Hillary Clinton was one of the ones that told him to never concede because the election was illigetimate.
     
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    All evidence to the contrary.
     
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    He knew of ALL Cohen's activities because they were done at his bidding. So you admit that Trump is a scumbag but you're OK with it. Sad.
     
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    In reality, it shouldn't have any. Why should it?
     

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