Election fraud of an entirely different kind.

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  1. Condor060

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    And more blah blah blah blah blah.
    More fake BS from the left. Show me charges and indictments or you can waste someone elses time. All you have is gibberish.
    The same gibberish you have been posting for over a year. And you can't even find one single state of federal charge to back up anything you have posted in all that time.
    All you post is fake links to fake news without anyone being charged with anything.
     
  2. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What's fake about it? "Show me charges and indictments or you can waste someone elses time."
    Are you sure you want to stick to that standard? If so, please acknowledge Hillary did nothing wrong.
     
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    Yeah. lets stick with that standard.
    When I write 20 Hillary post a day about absolute BS, feel free to ask me to acknowledge something.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You call it BS and fake yet offer no credible evidence to explain why. I'm growing tired of discussing things with someone who adds nothing to the conversation. A number of state AG's have only recently come to understand what these various fraudulent electors tried to pull off. The MI AG has referred the case to the DoJ after gathering evidence she feels is compelling enough to sustain state charges if the feds fail to follow through. Yet all you do is harp on a current lack of indictments before the investigations are complete.
     
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    Don't these electors have to be appointed by somebody? And in keeping with that doesn't the governor have to sign off on the whole thing?
     
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    The latest news is that Trump Campaign staff made calls to republican electors asking them to assemble and complete the documents that have now been found in 7 states. And it was all coordinated by Rudy. Fun times ahead!!
     
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    Well, unfortunately for you, there are taped calls from the campaign staff detailing the plans and invitations to assemble the fake electors.
     
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    Why would it be unfortunate for me? It would actually be revolutionary for the left to ever come up with confirmed evidence they claim they have, but at the end of the day we all find out it was just hear say or what they think Trump was thinking.
    What a breath of fresh air that would be, huh.

    But just now, magically, they have this tape? What, did they not know they could have used it in his impeachment? Fascinating.
     
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    I don't have too. The information over the last 5 years has all come to the same conclusions over and over.
    Fake evidence
    Hear say claims
    Testimony to what they claim Trump was thinking
    Nothing anyone can use to make a credible charge
    Nothing any law enforcement will use for a credible charge
    Nothing and court will use for a credible charge

    You got all this backwards. When you post thousands of Trump criminal claims like you do, and you have SQUAT to show for it, it means one of 3 things.
    1. Your post are all fake claims without a single criminal charge in over 5 years of screaming the sky is falling
    2. Democrats are just too stupid to know what to do with all this credible information

    You even post information that has been debunked so bad, nobody else on PF will even touch it.

    Does that mean you will stop posting old debunked garbage taking up data space. That would be a relief.

    They made these claims in February of 2021. Just stop.

    Another fake post as you even know the reason why she filed was to try and get witnesses who refuse to testify to be subpoenaed. She even stated that for the record and here you are making up a claim she never stated. This is why your post fall on deaf ears.

    And you act like this is the only Trump investigation ever launched.
    Please
     
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    Seeing who was coordinating it I'm a little surprised that the whole thing didn't end up outside of a Stuckey's in New Jersey
     
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    As you know, because I proved it to you, the MI AG just referred the case to the DoJ after completing her investigation. She did so because there are more states than just MI involved. You appear to have some sort of bizarre mental block in comprehending this is an ongoing investigation. Is it the crime of the century? No. It's one aspect of the coordinated attempts by Trump and his minions to steal the election.
     
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    And you continually ignore, this has been passed over by their state DA and their own State AG. Now its passed over to the DOJ with a request to subpoena witnesses who refuse to testify?
    This isn't an investigation. Its passing the buck thus far. There isn't even any confirmation that the DOJ has any interest in this what so ever but you try and make it sound like its under DOJ investigation?
    Again, you have nothing that even looks like the DOJ has the least amount of interest in this.
     
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    Even if that were true, which it isn't, WHO CARES? The various AG's have picked up the cases and or are looking in to what crimes may have been committed. The feds are on it. The 1/6 committee is on it. Let's see where it goes.
     
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    Exactly, if crimes were committed they need to be investigated and punishment sought if they can be proven in a court.
     
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    Good news on that front.

    Rep. Pocan asks Justice Department to investigate fake electors

    MADISON, Wis. (AP) — Democratic U.S. Rep. Mark Pocan is asking U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland for a Justice Department investigation into 10 Republican electors who submitted false paperwork last year saying former President Donald Trump had won in the battleground state.

    President Joe Biden carried Wisconsin by just under 21,000 votes. The Republicans who met have defended the move saying they were submitting the votes in case Trump’s loss was overturned in courts.

    https://www.tmj4.com/news/political...stice-department-to-investigate-fake-electors
     
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    More fake news from the left as per usual.

    1. Lefties tried to claim they met in secret, when in actuality, they met at the Capital.
    2. Lefties tried to claim they were provided for the Jan 6 vote, but they were never provided for the Jan 6 vote.
    3. Lefties tried to claim they were falsified documents to fool everyone into believing Trump won the election, when in fact they were publicly created and provided as required by law in a case that was being heard over election fraud. Meaning if they won their case, they would have lost the vote because they didn't provide the elector vote by the dead line.

    But there is no limit to how the left lies about things like this. A private firm took it upon themselves to claim this was all done in secret to defraud the voters into believing Trump won the election and provided their idiotic case to the Wisconsin board of elections in February of 2021.
    When there case was thrown out for fake claims they provided it to their local DAs office.
    When that was thrown out they provided to the Wisconsin AGs office.
    Then when they refused to do anything about it they now have this idiot in Congress asking for Garland to do something about it.

    This is how dumb the left has become as Wisconsin wasn't the only state who were REQUIRED to provide an elector vote within the required time frame while their election fraud cases were heard. They lost their cases and the electors withdrew their elector claims.
    NOBODY provided those claims on Jan 6 to defraud any votes.

    More fake news from the fake left on fake voter defraud claims as not one single legal authority has agreed to pursue any claims of elector fraud in any case in any state this has been promoted for over a year.
     
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    Well, it's about time. You can no longer expect one party to do the right thing for the representative republic.
     
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    Indeed.
     
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    In New Mexico, state Attorney General Hector Balderas this week sent a clear message that his office takes seriously attempts to falsify electoral votes in the 2020 presidential election on behalf of Donald Trump.

    Joe Biden won New Mexico by nearly 100,000 votes, but that didn’t stop Trump’s true-believers from pretending otherwise under the noxious smoke of conspiracy about widespread voter fraud. While the state continues to investigate, Balderas has referred the matter to federal authorities.

    It’s also a course taken last week by Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel. Michigan went for Biden by more than 150,000 votes, but that didn’t stop Republicans from generating an alternate slate of electors for Trump.

    https://thenevadaindependent.com/ar...at-we-must-not-let-up-on-purveyors-of-big-lie
     
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    POLITICO also obtained records indicating that National Archives investigators pursued a case of potential fraud against a second slate of would-be Trump electors in Arizona who identified themselves as “sovereign citizens.” An Archives inspector general official said the agency declined to comment on “ongoing” work.

    The decision to deploy illegitimate electors highlights the deliberation of Trump's allies in their attempts to keep his effort to reverse the election alive. Top Trump White House officials at the time — including adviser Stephen Miller — made clear they were tracking “alternative” slates of electors in real time.

    And several state parties said the Trump campaign played a role in directing them to hold their elector meetings, describing it at the time as a way to preserve the defeated president’s legal options as he fought doomed court battles to overturn the results.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/21/january-6-committee-precedent-pro-trump-electors-527528

    AZ had two slates of fake electors? The crazy is strong with them.
     
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    Federal prosecutors looking at 2020 fake elector certifications, deputy attorney general tells CNN

    (CNN)Federal prosecutors are reviewing fake Electoral College certifications that declared former President Donald Trump the winner of states that he lost, Deputy Attorney General Lisa Monaco told CNN on Tuesday.

    "We've received those referrals. Our prosecutors are looking at those and I can't say anything more on ongoing investigations," Monaco said in an exclusive interview.
    The fake certificates falsely declaring Trump's victory were sent to the National Archives by Trump's allies in mid-December 2020. They have attracted public scrutiny amid the House's January 6 investigation into the pressure campaign that sought to reverse Trump's electoral defeat.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/25/poli...al-certificates-justice-department/index.html

    This one goes out to my old friend Condor, where ever you are.
     
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    Jan. 6 Committee Subpoenas Alternate, Trump-Backing Electors

    The Jan. 6 Committee on Friday issued subpoenas to fourteen people who sought to act as supposed alternate electors for Trump in 2020. The subpoenas go after a quixotic plot by Trump backers to submit fake slates of Electoral College votes — certificates and all — from states across the country.

    When Jan. 6 came around, the thinking went, Vice President Mike Pence could select the “real,” Trump-supporting slates of electors — who were ready with fake certificates. In a statement, panel co-chair Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-MS) said that the fake ballots came as part of the broader attempt in late 2020 to subvert the elections. “We believe the individuals we have subpoenaed today have information about how these so-called alternate electors met and who was behind that scheme,” he said.

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/jan-6-committee-subpoenas-alternate-trump-backing-electors
     
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    Jan. 6 Committee Subpoenas Arizona GOP Chair And Her Husband’s Phone Records

    The Jan. 6 committee subpoenaed the phone records of Arizona GOP chair Kelli Ward and her husband, Michael Ward, both of whom falsely claimed in documents that they were among the battleground state’s presidential electors in 2020.

    On Tuesday, the Wards sued the committee in federal court in Arizona in an effort to block their phone provider, T-Mobile, from sharing records with the panel.

    The Wards’ lawsuit has been assigned to U.S. District Court Judge Susan Brnovich, the wife of Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich, an ally of former President Donald Trump who is running for Senate, according to Politico.

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/...ubpoenas-arizona-gop-chair-ward-phone-records

    More duped stooges Trump & CO abused.
     

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