Biden questions if midterm elections will be "legit"

In the latest Rasmussen Reports survey, 56% of respondents said, "It’s likely that cheating affected the outcome of the 2020 presidential election, including 41% who say it’s ‘very likely.’”

so, there you have it the majority believe cheating occurred so yah they would welcome more secure voting as in voter ID
Poll: 80 Percent Of Americans Support Voter ID Laws
so why would you be against what 80% of the public supports unless liberal benefit from less secure elections?

 

RCP average Trump vs Biden in 2024 has Trump up by 4.8 points

 

What a shame that the elections are 3 years away.

 

If the first year is any indication, by then only his hardcore Space bidets will still support Biden, so that means his approval rating would probably sink to a historic low of about 10%.

 

Oh FFS.....

These are 2 COMPLETELY separate issues

Suppressing the vote legislatively is what the right is doing. Read the Brennan Centers report. They are selectively suppressing votes from one party. That is COMPLETELY separate from the rights claims of voter fraud. I, and most on the left, dont believe their was any voter fraud because their is literally no proof of it. The accusation was made from whole cloth to excuse the loss, and to this day their is literally no proof

Now please explain how the voting rights bill "reduces the integrity of our elections".....[/QUOTE]

The Brennan Center is a left wing organization that advocates for the left run by a former Speech Writer for Bill Clinton. Not exactly a source for objective information.

 

you think I have trivialized the voter problem because you have read an outdated book??

electronic vote counting started in the 60's..about the same time a pocket calculator became popular

one book does not an education make..

no doubt in this country's history, there has been some fantastic election fraud and corruption take place

but now the only way to commit voter fraud is to prevent a certain group from voting at all

I agree, every election does have some sort of fraud..but none that could consists of millions of votes

every person has heard the story of a small town politician renting a van and taking voters to the polls to vote

and on the ride they just happen to hand out a sandwich to influence a voters decision

but on a national level, it is NOT so simple

every credit card purchase I make is recorded and a notice is sent to my phone

I make thousands of transactions every year ...every one is recorded is some form or fashion

and it is the same for anyone else that allows it

I got my social security number when I was 13 years old..it has followed me for 50 years

I get a letter every year explaining the benefits and amounts I have paid in...

if electronic system can follow my income for 50 years they can certainly follow my voting record

times are changing and so is the way votes are made

washington state for example, have not had in person voting for many years

4 other states along with Washington have adopted progressive voting systems

like it or not, history has proven progress may be slowed but not stopped..

the reason the GOP is demanding voting systems do not change is also very simple

they are too ignorant to figure out a new system of voting...

and they are rapidly becoming the minority because they are dying off faster than voters become of age

everybody wants the "good ole days"

the GOP may win the battle but will lose the war

a new generation is creeping in and every generation is smarter than the last

at some point even the GOP will want more people to vote

until then.. good luck stopping progress

you may slow progress but will NEVER stop it

 

According to some on the left and lying fake news, questioning elections is only a high crime if a Republican does it.

THAT’S DIFFERENT, BECAUSE SHUT UP: Biden Is Not Alone. Democrats Have Been Delegitimizing Elections for Years.

Questions the legitimacy of US elections.​

Dems have a long record of questioning elections when they lose, and Biden expects Dems to lose the 2022 elections so he is doing what many Dems have long done, questioned the legitimacy of the elections they lose.

She makes even less sense than he does.

Biden's always been a vicious liar, even when his brain was still functioning.

 

So you are agreeing with Biden? LOL, that's even more funny.

 

I agree voting should be as secure as purchasing something from amazon
think about that
should the same secure measures be put in place for voting?

 

Good. Its time to undermine the possible election results in every state that is passing laws to inhibit access to the ballot box and impede voters from exercising their franchise via absentee ballot. Start planting the seeds of doubt and outrage in defense of voters and the franchise, using the issue to fuel division, get those 'legal fund checks' rolling in for whatever the DNC or state parties need, get Dems lining up to register, and start recruiting lawyers, poll 'watchers' and press every emotional button in preparation of mass protests throughout these states. Maybe it's time to get some more conceal and carry permits in those capable hands of the poll watchers and send them to the red leaning counties in those states.

Lets show you guys what real protests look like in Michigan, Florida, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Colorado, Virginia. We can have 'tourist buses full of supporters' primed by Facebook, Twitter and every left of center political website, ready to take a close look at all the artwork on every floor of every one those state and county buildings and lots of very public speakers to regale them with tales of 'fighting the steal' , some quotes ( context be damned) of founding fathers, challenging the authority of federal, state, and county officials to count ballots and certify election results in those states.

I am opposed to any clearly illegal efforts to intimidate, bribe, coerce, or harass, vandalize or engage in violence. Those that clearly break the law, should be ashamed of themselves. I hope they face a hefty civil fine and a stern lecture from a judge. With covid, we probably should not be increasing the populations of our jails and prisons.

 

no, they just treat them as God

 

1. "electronic vote counting started in the 60's..about the same time a pocket calculator became popular"

Strawman. My comment was electronic voting machines connected to the Internet.

2. but now the only way to commit voter fraud is to prevent a certain group from voting at all

Strawman and unsupported assertion. Fraud can potentially occur via ballot harvestings by 3rd parties, allowing last minute mail in ballots, and voting machines connected to the Internet. The things your people want.

3, everybody wants the "good ole days"

Strawman. The Republicans want improved rigor in the voting system to prevent fraud.

4. a new generation is creeping in and every generation is smarter than the last

Is that demonstrated by the dropping SAT scores?

5. the reason the GOP is demanding voting systems do not change...

False claim. The Republican party does not want the elections Federalized, i.e. rigged. At the State level Republicans have been changing the voting system to prevent fraud.

And at the end of the day you dodged the question on 3rd party vote harvesting, last minute absentee ballots, and untrusted voting machines connected to the Internet. If you want to assert voting machines are trusted, cause like they had them in the 60s, perhaps you can explain what NIAP Protection Profile these trusted voting machines comply with and are evaluated against.






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That's a nice opinion you have there and it's mistaken like most of yours...

Not only that but you completely Dodge the point but that's no surprise because you don't want to admit you have double standards.

But you don't have to admit it you wear them on your sleeve

 

your conspiracy theories do not hold water

as i said

i have had a social security number for over 50 years

for over 50 years my income has been tracked ,correctly i may add

it would be simple to keep a record of who casts a vote and when and how the vote is cast ..

yes i agree that anything is possible and election fraud is as well

but to change the results of a national election by millions of votes and then go undetected is next to impossible

and yes the SAT scores are down from 30 years ago

but guess what?? millions more kids are taking the test than before

my son knows more about technology and todays world than I.. and his son will know more than both of us combined

a 100 years ago before the automobile became popular the citizens laughed and pointed out every flaw of the first cars

now a car is as common as a horse once was ..

when the flip phone came out, I said i would never get one and the phone in my kitchen was fine

the home phone is all but obsolete and so is the flip phone

again the GOP may win the current voting rights battle

but will lose the war

IMHO every USA citizen without a criminal record, over 18 and has been assigned a social security number should be allowed to vote..PERIOD

the government can keep track of a persons income it certainly could keep track of how many times a person votes ..

in the end it is all just counting numbers

progress can only be slowed, not stopped

 

Didn't think that politicians other than Trump would use the "stop the steal" approach when you backed him, did you? You opened Pandora's box when you supported Trump and his false election integrity claims. Now you have to lay in the bed you made.

Me, I've predicted form the start that this would be only the beginning and that others, including Dems, would adopt a similar strategy when they are about to lose. Welcome to our democracy being torn down right in front of our eyes. And Trump started it all with your support.

 

I'm sure you have a point you are desperately trying to make, but this post fails to do it.

 

Ummmmmm, what? Are you sure you're responding to the right person? LOL

 

Now quote a post where I supported "stop the steal" or anything like that. Then your post has relevance, no response until then.

 

I didn't say that either.

Is the only way you can make a point to 'pretend' people said things they didn't? Because that's all you've done so far.

 

the point is this
you wrote
Leftists don't treat their POTUS as a cult leader and worship them

which I prove you woefully wrong

three news articles by liberal publications that referred to Obama as a god

so, either you lack any self-awareness, or you are being purposely obtuse so not to admit you fail

 

It all started with Trump. He was the one who cried about election fraud in 2016 saying if he loses its only because of fraud. Now every election is going to be considered illegitimate by the loser. So long to peaceful transition of power. I hope the extremist right thinks it was worth it.

 

What are you talking about? Trump won the CPAC with a 90% vote. He’s got a 70+ % ratings of republicans who WANT him to run again lol and greater than 90% of them will vote for him if he runs again.

 

Well don’t worry. When you call it fraud, We will just ignore you, call you a conspiracy theorist and refuse any efforts at investigation and obstruct all audits just like the democrats have done. Turnabout is fair play.

You say we cheated and we will just stonewall and obstruct the investigations into it. And there will never be actual investigations into the allegations, just claims of fraud that get obstructed.

 

Cute, thinking the voters matter in the primary.