Trump almost ordered National Guard to SEIZE voting machines!!!

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    That's really all it actually takes.
     
  2. Arkanis

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    It's just an innocuous little letter that Trump tried to block all the way to the Supreme Court....
     
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    The ballot count totals come closely to the original counts. No evidence of ballot tampering given.

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    We cannot ascertain to forensic level the validity of CyberNinja's claims about the Dominion machines, as CyberNinjas have zero experience with these systems. Given the clown car atmosphere, the stuff about Bamboo, etc., and all sorts of incompetence reported, how do we know it is not CN that corrupted the machines through their own mishandling?

    The only fact that will matter, in my view, in a court of law, is the above, and, on the point that matters, nothing has changed.

    I'll let Dominion continue with their lawsuit to get to the bottom of CN's allegations, and I will not accept any claims to disparaging their integrity until the outcome of that lawsuit occurs.

    The ballot counts are acceptable, however, because clearly they match or come close to the originals, and it doesn't take computer knowledge to hand count ballots.
     
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    So who, in your world would qualify as a cult member? Maybe someone that would elect a total senile and incompetent leader just to preserve or secure an ideology?
     
  5. yardmeat

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    The Republicans who hired these guys have already called out these claims as complete bullshit. Powell is a lunatic, and she's now admitted that she never even researched these claims before vomiting her lies.
     
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    A letter he didn't sign or institute? He probably knew posters like yourself would take it out of context to push fake information.
    Guess what, he was right, Again.
     
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    There is no "out of context" here. This is authoritarian insanity.
     
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    Perfect, then you agree Trump scripted this in the same letter.

    “I would like to begin today by addressing the heinous attack that took place yesterday at the United States Capitol,” it opens. “Like all Americans, I was outraged and sickened by the violence, lawlessness and mayhem. I immediately deployed the National Guard and federal law enforcement to secure the building and expel the intruders. America is, and must always be, a nation of law and order.”

    “The Demonstrators who infiltrated the Capitol have defiled the seat of American Democracy, “I am directing the Department of Justice to ensure all lawbreakers are prosecuted to the fullest extent” of the law.”

    The document follows with a direct communication to the rioters: “We must send a message - not with mercy but with justice. To those who engaged in acts of violence and destruction, I want to be very clear: you do not represent me. You do not represent our movement. You do not represent our country. And if you broke the law, you belong in jail.”


    Who'd a thunk you would be agreeing with Trump.
     
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    American soldiers swear an oath to the Constitution, not the President. Very well done, because a President can always turn out to be an enemy of the country. And Trump definitely is! :(
     
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    Since when?
    I, (name), do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the president of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me.
     
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    That is the oath of enlistment. The oath I took as an officer made no reference to the president.
     
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    trump has people to write those things. no one thinks he actually writes anything other than the illiterate tweets.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is the oath of office which I took as an officer in the US Air Force:

    , (state your name), having been appointed a (rank) in the United States Air Force, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution Of the United States against all enemies, Foreign and domestic, that I bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter.
     
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    So he didn't write it
    He didn't sign it
    He didn't institute it

    Whats all the hub bub
     
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    Above all is the Constitution. The President and all officers are subordinate to this. The constitution is absolute, but presidents and commanders cannot always be trusted. We have a good example for this: Donald Trump, a former President who tried to overthrow American democracy. :(
     
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    All Trump has to do is ask a question and he's overthrowing democracy. Sorry, not buying into it.
     
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    You may want to try fooling someone else.... it won't work on me...

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    Of course he tried to keep power anyway he could. I'm happy he failed; he won't again if given a second chance, so let's not give him another. He's a desperate criminal, you can bet he'll sell out even his immediately family if he had to.
     
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    There is everything wrong with the intent. The intent is nothing short of tyranny.

    Ordering the military to seize machines is a violation of the constitution. Obviously, no military of any kind would follow that order.

    They are in state's juridictions, so the issue for states to decide if there is evidence to support their allegation.

    They would have to be seized by a court order in a state court, AFTER evidence has been provided, to be legal.

    However, given what is known about Trump, I believe it is safe to presume he would like the idea, if he could get away with it.
     
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    Trump's "question" was rejected by several courts.

    Trump is a Mo'fuXXer who can't lose, he's an ugly and fat unsuccessful golf player nobody does care of! :D
     
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    Amazing you have to post this.
     
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    Here's a fact for you:

    The CN 'report' will not stand up in a court of law.

    End of argument.

    THat you believe otherwise means someone other than me is being fooled.
     
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    Glad you were able to get that off your chest
     
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    So you think Trump wrote/dictated that letter?
     
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    if this draft EO was on Obama's desk, you guys would have gone insane.
     

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