Biden questions if midterm elections will be "legit"

Ah, so to you, there is only fraud if your boy loses, but Joe can't claim fraud if he loses.

LOL, figures.

 

I thought the very same thing, even a silly movie that will eventually be on PPV.

 

I doubt ByDumb if the vote were today he'd win. No way!

 

Well, it's widely suspected that Dems rig their primary and prevented Bernie from winning twice, and the DNC clearly ignored the primary voters rejection of Kamala, and it appears the voters read her more accurately than the DNC did, so, from the perspective of a Dem primary voter, I can see your point, but, that's not how GOP primaries operate, the voters do actually have a voice, and they most certainly do matter.

It's a common practice for Dems to question the legitimacy of elections they lose, as it shields them from self-examination and allows them to blame others for their own losses, in that sense, Dementia Joe is perfectly consistent with tradition. What differs is that Dems just spent a year claiming that questioning an election was beyond the pale, but, since they spent the four before that claiming that Trump's election was illegitimate, most folks with brains understand that their outrage is feigned.

 

Why is that do they rig the primaries like Democrats arer known to do?

 

What are on about “gaslighting” ?

YES, the most people veer voted for Joe Biden. I know that hurts the heart of the cult, but their were more people who voted against Donald Trump. IMHO, most of the votes cats for Biden were votes against Trump, more than they were votes for Biden.

You dont have to believe me about the purges and the laws begin enacted. Their just facts that the Brennan Center is bringing to light. The right I in this country has screamed for the last 18 months about “voter fraud”, and cheating, yet they have not one piece of evidence to show voter fraud that would change the vote. So please tell me what problem they are “fixing” with these new laws.

 

Not rigged.Party Leaders could hand select a candidate if they choose to do so.

 

Stopping it, and making it very hard to use are the same thing. You are correct in that would does not end the practice, but it does increase the burden when they have to travel long distances to actually mail in their vote.

So yes, they are making it “harder” to vote by mail, the same as many states are making it harder to vote in urban areas by limiting voting machines in urban ares, limiting hours at polling places.

Read the Brennan Centers study, and you may be surprised by whats happening

 

What problem are they trying to solve ?

Safeguarding them from what ? The right has been screaming about this as a problem for over 4 years now, yet cant really find any of what they claim.

 

The Brennan Center is a left wing organization that advocates for the left run by a former Speech Writer for Bill Clinton. Not exactly a source for objective information.[/QUOTE]

I see you’re not debating what they said, instead attacking the messenger

 

More democratic counties have been audited than republican ones. In fact, how many Trump counties have been audited?

 

to sum up this thread

nobody can win without cheating

the party that cheats the best wins

 

Wrong. It started with Gore all the way up to Abhrams.

 

Just more right wing deflection. Gore never alleged the other side cheated, but that there were inconsistencies in how votes were being tabulated across counties e.g. butterfly ballots. Trump alleged massive fraud in 2016 before Abrams in 2018. So all the fraud talking started with Trump and the GOP.

 

I see you’re not debating what they said, instead attacking the messenger[/QUOTE]

Care to post a link to the report?

 

Care to post a link to the report?[/QUOTE]

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/voting-laws-roundup-october-2021

 

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/voting-laws-roundup-october-2021[/QUOTE]

Thank you. I will read it.

 

So how would that be any different than rigging it....? Try to give a specific please example please.

 

We agree with the facts that the Left wants to hollar about: The emperor with no clothes won the election, and he got the most votes in said election. You would think that it'd be the Republican party wanting voter expansion because they were the ones with less votes. That's what common sense would dictate.

Instead, it's the Democrats who want the national federal holiday, so that in similar light of Australia we would be compelled to vote. The compulsion eliminates any campaigning work(which has both its pros and cons, but to me the biggest con is that a politician in Australia does not necessarily have to show his or her position or values.) And to me, it further favors the incumbent, who already in America(before 2020, and in fact for decades) is greatly entrenched.

And to me, there is no quote/unquote voter purge. If your residential data is outdated, then yes it should be removed from the books. If we're obligated to vote, we should also be obligated to keep our information current. And I believe most citizens will have no problem with this. Indeed, since the idiot opened his foolish mouth ajar, I can't wait to see 2022 mid term election numbers.

If Democrats win unexpected seats, maintain the House, etc I look forward to an explanation since the Republican Party was 'purging voters'.

 

Thats not true. The number show that the nation is majority democrat. Repubs cant win without the electoral college, which skews the actual presidential vote. In 2019 republicans held a majority in congress, yet represented almost 50 million less people.

Agreed. But allowing a federal holiday to vote, actually gets more people out to vote. Most white collar workers have more freedom to vote in todays society. Blue collar workers have a much tougher time. In some states they get less than 2 hours from work to vote, and they have to drive to their precinct, and hope the lines allow them time to vote and then to return back to work. AND, most states allow the employer to use the employees lunch hour as part of that time. Hence, the long lines at those polls can limit the vote

I’m not sure how that compels a political to not campaign tho ?

Thats not how purges happen. Purges are done in very nefarious ways. In my state, all it takes is any person can go to the clerks office, get a list, and literally write “I challenge this voter”, and then the state is legally required to verify that voter. And here is the ultimate irony, they can do that up to 30 days prior to an election. Now, when that voter goes to the polls and votes, they are not told this, but the state then can scrub that vote to not be counted, even after its cast.

Again, america is a solid democrat nation. Thats why you see gerrymandering happening daily. Their isn't a pollster, or any person who legitimately follows politics that doesnt agree that republicans hold state level power because of gerrymandering. And many states that federal level power is held by gerrymandering.

Look, politically this country is completely broken. I honestly dont know if it’s salvageable at this point. We literally had the right in this country protest, and break into the capital, to stop the process and to install their own party, damn the actual vote. We had Republican legislatures literally try to send the wrong electors, and did send forged documents to the EC. We had a president, and his cronies draft documents to confiscate voting machines ! And in all of this, many on the rigth think that this was not only OK, but they think it should have been accepted and Trump installed, all the while clutching a copy of the constitution, and singing the national anthem calling themselves the “patriot party”

 

wrong again


In a national party identification poll Republican's lead democrats by 5 points
in other words, there are more republicans than democrats nationwide just destroying your argument

 

LOL. Do you even know how ridiculous it sounds to claim that red states want to suppress votes? That's like trying to claim that a red state is gerrymandering to fix elections they already win.

 

Holy crap you're special. I didn't say that either.

 

It had long been open long before that, way back to while Trump was a democrat.

"THEY NEVER REGARD AN ELECTION AS LEGITIMATE UNLESS THEY WIN": Biden is hardly the first Democrat to try to delegitimize elections.

"It’s only wrong to call elections illegitimate if you’re a Republican."

Some folks, who are "progressively" more and more unpopulith the Electorate do this on topic after topic. For Example:

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Democrats haven’t accepted a Republican win since Reagan won 49 states. Still waiting for Stacey Abrams to concede.