Half of Nashville COVID hospitalizations ‘incidental’; admitted for other conditions

Keyword remains to be "excess mortality". Some years are just deadlier then average. Some claim they got covid, others say it's just pneumonia. You know, whatever. Bottomline is that the US experienced a heck of a lot more people dying during the pandemic. And the numbers how many died currently still exceeds the amount of people who got labelled as died due to covid. The difference is a lot. And there is just one plausible explanation for it, and it's not because a lot more people just happen to die from pneumonia.

 

Figure this one out......

2020’s Number of Diabetes deaths significantly increased by near 15%, and the reason given;

Diabetics were scared of stepping out of their residences, and seek their regular treatment in infested hospitals.

 

Says the poster that regularly uses "The Stupidest Man on the Internet" (aka Gateway Peckerwood) as a primary source...

 

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2778234
Most of the increase in deaths from 2019 to 2020 was directly attributed to COVID-19. However, increases were also noted for several other leading causes of death. These increases may indicate, to some extent, underreporting of COVID-19 / Increases in other leading causes, especially heart disease, Alzheimer disease, and diabetes, may also reflect disruptions in health care that hampered early detection and disease management.

 

Thanks!

 

I had some Hot Chicken one night in Nashville that almost put me in the hospital!

 

What they say is not "exactly" what you said, by the way.

 

You are correct!



June 9, 2021, 4:41 PM MDT / Updated June 11, 2021, 12:19 PM MDT / Source: Associated Press
By The Associated Press


The U.S. saw remarkable increases in the death rates for heart disease, diabetes and some other common killers in 2020, and experts believe a big reason may be that many people with dangerous symptoms made the lethal mistake of staying away from the hospital for fear of catching the coronavirus.

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HOWEVER,

I prefer the following reason:

''may also reflect disruptions in health care that hampered early detection and disease management''

 

In addition to the above,

In the minds of Republicans, a disruption in health care means; John Doe had a tooth abscess, and most dental offices were closed, thus, due to the lockdowns, John died of a brain infection.

However, in the minds of independents, a disruption in health care means a whole lot more, such as; Hospitals postponing elective surgeries.

 

Ironically, the Republicans recently attacked Governor Whitmer for undercounting her State’s Nursing Homes/LTCF Covid deaths.

 

Sure, claim it's in one source. And when shown it's not there, pick an other. This one doesn't put the number on 15%.

To putting it more blunt. A fat diabetic who had covid and died because of it, but never was tested for it and was too scared to go to a hospital, would not end up to be counted as died due to covid. A fat diabetic who had covid and died because of it, and was turned down by the hospital for come over because they were overwhelmed, would not end up to be counted as died due to covid.

Obese people simply got a high chance of becoming a diabetic. While obese people also got a higher chance of dying from covid.
We do know not everybody who died got tested if it was because of covid. They simply did not have staff. The underreporting of such deaths is simply a thing as well.

With that, I'm not saying your idea is not plausible. The truth lies somewhere in the middle of things.

 

Please don’t cry about the inadequately staffed hospitals when you all are firing hospital staff for not getting the vaccine.

Why not just allow the unvaccinated staff to work with unvaccinated patients instead of crying about how there’s not enough staff and advocating people be denied healthcare because of it.

 

Hospital staff covers everything from management, to doctors, nurses, reception, cooks and even cleaners. And the staff that wasn't around enough were specifically the people running the ICU. So you're dragging something in as if the staff in the ICU were fired en mass, which is doubtful to begin with. While them hospitals were overrun WAY before people even could get vaxxed, which crashed that argument completely.

Oh seriously?
Because unvaxxed people are easier to be infected, and so you got a higher chance of having an infected staff member infecting other unvaxxed staff members and unvaxxed patients. Infected staff can't work to take care of patients, putting a strain on other staff members.. while the workload is already sky high. And infected unvaxxed patients, who are in the hospital due to their poor health, got far bigger chance of dying.... and who is liable when some cleaner coughed that "just a flue" on an unvaxxed patient trying to recover from cancer?

You really didn't think this trough at all.

 

No I said have them work with the unvaccinated. Only. What’s the problem? If they’re willing to do the work and the other people need treatment. Why not let them do so?

 

Because
1) unvaxxed staff got a much higher risk to get covid and pass it to other staff.
It will happen before some staff gets to be aware that they are infected.
Infected and sick unvaxxed staff take longer to get better = putting a bigger strain on staff while the workload is already high.
2) unvaxxed staff got a much higher risk to get covid and pass it to patients.
Even vaxxed patients can get covid. And your random patient is in the hospital, because it's really sick.
Risking people who are already really sick to get covid as well, is gambling with their life!

 

There are many plausible explanations for excess mortality. Widespread use of Remdesivir by hospitals across the country is but one plausible explanation. Widespread manipulation of data for 2 years is another.

 

That's not plausible at all.

 

Not for the well indoctrinated, no.

 

Not for the people who stand by science, no.

 

Not for those who cannot distinguish between science and science fiction. Not for those who worship career bureaucrats with a strong reputation for mendacity, no. Not for those who fall for the nonsense put forth by snakeoil salesmen, no.

 

You defy science when you call widespread use of Remdesivir as a plausible reason of excess mortality.
I'm not up for discussing nonsense from "researchers" using what others like on fakebook.

 

You and many others do not know the difference between science and science fiction. You cannot distinguish between a physician and a charlatan.

 

Plenty of your kind read that fakebook science, and died.
How about you go tell them to wake up?