Unsigned Trump order told Pentagon to seize voting machines

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  1. RedWolf

    RedWolf Well-Known Member

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    He didn't sign it. That's as far as it goes for me. It's the same for anything Biden, Obama, Bush and so forth goes. It doesn't really matter what was written down if they didn't actually sign it.
     
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    Take it up with CNN and the other alphabet networks. That’s how they reported it. So it’s THEIR spin.
     
  3. Arkanis

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    The reason Trump did not sign it was because there was resistance at the DOJ and in the Army, despite the fact that he had several top Pentagon officials replaced by loyalists the day after his defeat.

    The irony is that it is the so-called 'Deep State' that has prevented the country from sinking into autocracy.

    I can't imagine the MAGA outrage if it was discovered that Biden wanted to bring in the military to overturn a democratic election.

    But since it's Trump, there's nothing to see....

    Pathetic.
     
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  4. RedWolf

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    You must have missed the part where I already said I don't care who it would have been under so long as it wasn't signed, I don't care. Your partisan blinders are getting in your way.
     
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    Lock him up, for being responsible that the memo is there to begin with... and his ill will to come forth and explain what happened.
     
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    Another post filled with nothing but idiotic and nonsensical crap.

    No evidence for any of your conjectures. Why this thread isn't moved to the Conspiracy bin is beyond me. I guess flat-Earth nonsense is no longer considered to be a conspiracy theory.
     
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    No - they reported that he conceded that he would not be president for a second term.
    Nobody ever reported that he conceded defeat because he has never done so.
     
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  8. RedWolf

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    Again, he didn't sign it. You don't care about justice, you just want revenge.
     
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    It's not relevant that it's not signed. It's relevant that the documents EXISTS!
    And Donald was the man in charge, which makes HIM responsible that it exists.
    While Donald and his henchmen refuses to open up in inquiries about this.
    So that concludes he is responsible that the document EXISTS while he is busy with a COVERUP.

    So lock him up!
     
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    :roflol:
     
  11. RedWolf

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    What does it matter that the document exists? Does that mere act make it illegal? Please show me the law where it does. If however you want to cry about a crime that Trump didn't commit, then that's on you. You're just whining for the sake of yelling "Trump!".
     
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    No, it shows there were people in that administration were beyond civic redemption... While I don't think this document is a smoking gun in and of itself, I will be interested to find out who wrote it (S. Powell) and how far it got up the flagpole (did somebody actually summarize for T****?)

    It's a story, just not as big in my book as Raffensberger or the continuing seditious conspiracy charges around 1/6...
     
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    Ok, So having discussions to know your available options is just fine?
    You just shot down everything you posted about Trump in one paragraph. You took that bait?
    Got you to admit CNN is fake news and Trump is having discussions to see his available options.
    God that was easy.
    You just can't make this stuff up.
     
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    So obviously someone testified to that or you have it on some authority, right?
    I mean, you wouldn't just pull that out of thin air because it would show how intellectually dishonest you are just making up wild claims like that.

    So I trust when you make a claim like that you have a link or a document you can share. THe only other thing I could think of is you might claim you knew what Trump was thinking. But that would be impossible as you just discovered the document and that would even be worse than lying about it. That would have other implications that aren't very favorable.

    So if its all the same to you, would you mind sharing this knowledge with us as I am sure the other two options above couldn't possibly come into play. I mean you wouldn't post something so detrimental to your own credibility without the information to support it.
    Right?
     
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    Oh yeah, this is all made up :)
     
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    I would have never thought you and Trump would agree on anything. Thats amazing
    So according to you, what ever is in that draft is Trumps responsibility as there is no way it was created without his knowledge and consent.

    Before you went on your rant about this draft, did you even read it? I am guessing you didn't since the very first opening statement says this.

    “I would like to begin today by addressing the heinous attack that took place yesterday at the United States Capitol,” “Like all Americans, I was outraged and sickened by the violence, lawlessness and mayhem.

    “The Demonstrators who infiltrated the Capitol have defiled the seat of American Democracy, “I am directing the Department of Justice to ensure all lawbreakers are prosecuted to the fullest extent” of the law.”

    We must send a message - not with mercy but with justice. To those who engaged in acts of violence and destruction, I want to be very clear: you do not represent me. You do not represent our movement. You do not represent our country. And if you broke the law, you belong in jail.”

    And according to you, this was created with Trumps knowledge and consent.
     
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    And after that he directs the military to seize all the voting machines?

    Lock him up.
     
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    So your admitting your theories of Trump supporting the rioters was all just uninformed information.
    Glad you finally realized it.

    Now you want to lock him up for not directing the military to seize voting machines?
    Why would you support that? I thought you were against directing the military to seize voting machines.
     
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    It matters as much as a terrorist plotting a plan to commit a massacre, but not following things through.
    Donald and his henchmen refuse to cooperate
    And the thing is that Joe the plumber's taxes were USED to make this document. So it is our right to know.
    So Donald can go cry all he wants when locked up.
     
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    Uh yeah. Management is responsible for what their staff does. That's why they are paid so lavishly. Is this news to you?

    The document we're discussing was made on te 16th of december. So it could not possible be about the demonstrators who infiltrated the capitol.
     
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    Trump Wanted DOJ To Overturn Election ‘By Any Means Necessary,’ Senate Report Details

    80 million voters know what Trump thinks.

    They've had the opportunity to watch him for four years.

    He is a narcissist, a megalomaniac with autocratic tendencies, a psycopath who has seen the pandemic only as an obstacle to his re-election and who despises democracy.

    I think I can live with the fact that MAGAs think they can get to my credibility.
     
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    What crime was committed? Show me the specific law that he broke. If you can do that then I'll join right in with you on condemning Trump despite him not having signed it. If you can't then all you're doing is crying about your hurt feelings.
     
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    You have proof of dictation? You got sauce for that goose?
     
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    When one of the “options” is calling in the military because you can’t accept you lost an election - no, that is not “fine”. That is being on a path to a coup.
     
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    Because you want to present the president with "the Plan tm" and you want something to hand him to show what he'd be doing.
    Orders get written all the time that are never used.
     

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