BLM DC complains that shot police officers treated as 'heroes' in 'tear jerker press conferences'

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  1. Joe knows

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    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/blm-dc-complains-shot-police-officers-treated-heroes

    Names being black is more dangerous than any job…. Hmmm A cop being a hero highlights the differences when a black man is hurt by cops…. Yeahhhhh sure.

    BLM are not worth the publics support. They are actively trying to suggest a cop is worth less to society than a hero when they encounter the evil in our streets and try to stop them. My guess is they’re making the deeds of those who target police officers less substantial in an effort to normalize those who attack them.
     
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    This is exactly what I meant in your other posts. You want everyone to know and understand *your* pain in feeling excluded but you don't care about other people that express their distress about the exact same thing.

    For me, I'm afraid, that attitude makes it difficult for me to empathize with you. I understand. I "get" it, but the double-standard just doesn't sit right with me.
     
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    Cities are having a hard time recruiting and retaining police officers. I would suggest that the BLM spokesperson put on the blue and work at it in D.C. for a decade or so. Then come back and talk about “copaganda”.
     
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    Interesting point, about Police in DC.
    Isn't it Tragic that certain politicians (such as Donald Trump) continue to demonize the gallant Police Officer who defended the Capitol from the violent attack of Jan.6th.

    Trump calls the Capitol Police officer a 'disgrace'
     
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    blm, these are the racist money obsessed terrorists who literally complained that the Notre Dame church fire was stealing their headlines. Screw blm and everything about them.
     
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    Over the last 6 months or so blm’s approval rating has been sinking, people are tired of whining racists who think they should be handed everything just because of their skin color.
     
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    [sarcasm]What does the Bureau of Land Management have to do with this?[/sarcasm]
     
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    So are they planning a rap concert to celebrate the officer's death while the second is still clinging to life?
     
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    How is that any different than white Libs and blacks demanding we have empathy for blacks “plight” while they ROUTINELY laugh in the face of ANY white person who claims ANY semblance of victimization?
     
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    BLM are folks who don't actually believe in morality. So it offends them when someone who would actually work to protect the citizens from them (BLM) is honored in any way. It's a wonder (ok no it isn't) that Garland still hasn't identified BLM as the domestic terrorists they are. Why aren't the FBI actively investigating those in their ranks who fire bombed cities, police department buildings... I mean, if there was ever a better example of insurrection...
     
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    At this point, they're actively a terrorist organization.
     
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    Because shooting an unarmed and non life threatening target through a door was galant, and heroic, to you, right? The man is a disgrace to his uniform, and a murderer. I mean, we should just apply the same legal reasoning then that you did when it was gF, should't we?
     
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    Shooting an unarmed women is a "gallant action" to you?
     
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    My guess is when they praise the murder of a cop, liberals reach for their checkbook as sort of a knee jerk reflex.
     
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    According to police this officer shot Ashley Babbitt when she jump into a corridor through which senators and congressman were led into a hiding place. He didn't know if Ashley Babbitt was armed or not - he knew she was violent and she tried to reach people he was obligated to defend. This officer was the only one who perform his duty, all other officers failed - their duty was to defend Capitol and they had right to use all means - including the use of firearm.
     
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    I actually agree we should wait for facts:
     
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    That case has been litigated in our PF court of opinion, so I’m not going to start all over with that.

    But regardless of what Pelosi or Trump think about it, a non-political, objective case can be made that it was not a good shooting.

    Imagine the outcry if an unarmed Antifa woman had been deliberately shot dead by the police while she was breaking into the downtown Justice Center in Portland. Most likely, that officer would have been indicted, fired, arrested, tried and convicted.

    We cannot have double standards on the use of deadly force by police. The laws on the use of deadly force by police make no distinction between the Capitol Building and an auto parts store in Anytown, USA.

    Objectively, I don’t believe that was a good shooting. And I believe that shooting was justified by political people in a political city where politics are the first priority, with everything else a distant second.

    The hypocrisy and double standards are the REAL disgrace of that case.
     
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    This statement from them was ill advised and detrimental to the cause. They’re going to alienate millions who may think there are lots of bad cops, support police reform, but also think many cops ARE heroes.
     
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    The liberal fascination with black lives matter is simply what used to be called RadicalChic. The following link is a good essay on the subject from 1970. Yes it is old. But the more things change the more they stay the same. I have included this link only as a historical footnote and entertainment.

    https://nymag.com/news/features/46170/

    … and now, in the season of Radical Chic, the Black Panthers. That huge Panther there, the one Felicia is smiling her tango smile at, is Robert Bay, who just 41 hours ago was arrested in an altercation with the police, supposedly over a .38-caliber revolver that someone had, in a parked car in Queens at Northern Boulevard and 104th Street or some such unbelievable place, and taken to jail on a most unusual charge called “criminal facilitation.” And now he is out on bail and walking into Leonard and Felicia Bernstein’s 13-room penthouse duplex on Park Avenue. Harassment & Hassles, Guns & Pigs, Jail & Bail—they’re real, these Black Panthers. The very idea of them, these real revolutionaries, who actually put their lives on the line, runs through Lenny’s duplex like a rogue hormone.
     
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    I just don't understand why Trump felt it necessary to demonize this officer (by calling him a "disgrace").
    Trump must relish being seen as front and center in the War on Cops.
    Trump called a Police Officer a "disgrace".
    Why does Trump Hate Cops?
     
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    AJ, you are using the wrong formula here.

    It's not that he hates cops or law enforcement. It is strictly that he is an opportunist and will latch onto **anything** to keep his cultists happy.

    The same people that justified and rationalized all the black and brown people that were killed by white cops have flipped the switch because in this case the "coveted" white person was on the other side. It doesn't matter that she did the exact same thing most of the "excusable" killed by cops cases had - disobeying a direct order from a law enforcement officer. She is being hailed a "martyr" when they would have picked clean all the bones of skeletons in the closet for a non-white person.

    Trump doesn't give a damn about her shooting.

    He didn't give a damn that 5 officers have died as a result of being present at that riot he planned.

    He didn't give a damn for all our soldiers, allies and friends when he released 5,000 Taliban prisoners to unleash upon them.

    He didn't give a damn about sitting on his hands through COVID in 2020 and even said he takes no responsibility.

    I get it. He's striking while the iron is hot. The biggest disgrace in all this is the people that defend the indefensible, move goal posts and want everyone to accept their word as law. They don't care about the law, policies and procedures, protocols or social decorum. They don't care how many of us lost loved ones to COVID and they don't care about anyone that was forced into homelessness because their job just abruptly ended. None of that matters and that tells us exactly what we need to know about the depth of his dysfunction and that of his enablers. They aren't patriots. Like him, they are traitors to our country and he is Public Enemy #1.
     
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    Ok.

    tell us why he hates cops.
     
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    Uhm, okay.
     
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    My point, exactly.

    Trump "Loves" the Cops.
    Until, he doesn't.

    Trump couid be the biggest fan of Catholic Saints.
    Trump could love ALL Saints.
    BUT, the minute his "base" tells him that St. Francis is Satan, then Trump would start dragging St. Francis--To pander to his base.
    Trump takes the term "Opportunist Panderer" to a new level.
     
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    Hey, AJ. Admittedly, I am not as well-informed as you are but I need to share something with you.

    However, I stumbled across another political forum several months ago and something struck me hard. Some of the posters at the site were involved in the Capitol riots. At first, I thought they were just hamming it up to get attention, but some of them provided photos and videos. Needless to say, I was stunned.

    I didn't participate but I read the forum for months and at least three of the posters there had some kind of contact with Trump, two of which agreed to post his "Letters from the 45th President" brain farts. Then, that whole thing happened with some women (IIRC, it was his daughter-in-law) that was posting on Facebook and linked to an interview with former President Trump. I backed away so my name and contact info couldn't be connected with any of the far out conspiracies and planning to "take back the Oval Office."

    Based on what I read over those several months, a pattern started to appear. At first, I told myself, "No, that's just a coincidence" but it continued. I kept some notes to try to figure out what was happening and found a pattern. The Trump supporters at that sight weren't conversing about what he has said and done. He was making public statements about what they were talking about. I hung back and just read the conversations and, sure enough, he was playing off their conversations, not the other way around.

    I did some research on subliminal messaging trying to figure out what was happening. He isn't *championing" their causes, he was spoon-feeding them exactly what he (and possibly some aides) read for them. For months after he orchestrated the Capitol riot, he never once said Babbitt's name. Then, seemingly out of nowhere, he dropped her name. This is a very common practice with interview coaches. They tell the prospective client to mimic the interviewer's body language, speak at the same pace and frame every answer as if they already had the job.

    I watched countless hours of him speaking and recognized it. He grabs hold on the outer parts of the podium and shifts just his shoulders. It's very subtle but it is a signal toward his rally attendees that he is engaged. That makes whatever he is saying in those moments seem personal and it's received by them as him "connecting with his constituents." He does this motion repeatedly toward various parts of the crowds. Most habitual liars repeat themselves as a way to add substance/weight to their lie. He does that constantly. Liars will also use plural pronouns as a signal that he (or she) is "part" of the group. We all heard him say "We love you all" to the Capitol rioters. We've all heard him say "A lot of people agree with me" in otherwise unimportant statements. He's using it to create the illusion that he's well-informed and he's telling the people what they want to know and this draws them. Countless studies have shown that people are more willing to agree with something if others (usually "ringers") have already given a nod and that's why he does it. He wants the listening public to think he has the support of countless others (even if it's just the multiple personalities in his head). Also, I play the piano and can recognize voices easier than I can recognize faces. Every time he makes a statement to nudge his listeners where he wants them to go, his voice becomes higher. The reason for that is countless studies have shown that people prefer the sound of a female voice (which is why Siri, Alexis, etc. are female voice ranges). The mental image we get is the speaker is harmless and even nurturing. It helps to remove the barriers we would otherwise have in normal conversations. If you watch some videos of him speaking about COVID or any topic other than his conspiracy "widespread election fraud" his voice is deeper and he enunciates more clearly. But, when he's *selling* his conspiracy theory, his voice is higher and that's designed to cause the listener to feel the need to be protective. The listener is unaware this happening and that's why it works so well. Hands down, no doubts, every police officer on the planet will tell you that people are more willing to get involved when they feel they are protecting a woman or child from harm.

    This is kind of funny and fits so I'm throwing it in here. About 10-11 years ago, I was selling some items on Craigslist. I'm not worried about serial killers so, yeah, I used Craigslist. I was just clicking on various subforums just to see what people were talking about and saw an ad posted in "Ride Share". Don't ask. I was just bored at that moment in time. LOL Get this. I saw an ad that basically read:

    Ride Share to California next month (these dates): If you are a woman and need a ride, send me a picture and I'll get you there. If you're a dude, don't bother. Get a job and figure out how to get to CA by yourself!!!

    I really did laugh out loud at the time. But, if you think about it, that's exactly Trump's shtick. He's not trying to win non-R voters. He's not trying to unify the country. He's not trying to do anything except con people and manipulate them to do his bidding. So, has has flashing neon lights for his supporters (the potential female traveler) and a big middle finger for the rest of us (the lone guy that can't hitch a ride to CA because he doesn't have the correct anatomy ;-). He never tried to sell us on why he was the one to re-elect. He perused message boards and played up anything his supporters were talking about. He didn't even tell them why he was the one to re-elect. His whole foundation was grabbing hold of all their fears and anxieties about "them" and "they will take your country" and how Biden couldn't protect them. Only he could do that. He does it now. He's been playing Monday morning quarterback since Biden took office. Now, he's even selling that China needs to answer for COVID but even that is a con. He had nothing but praise for Xi start to finish when he was in office.

    I can't think of the name of it but there was movie with Richard Gere who played a philandering husband. One day, he was having fun with a woman and his wife walks in. Naturally, she is shocked and turns to storm out and he gives chase. He catches her and tells her that she is mistaken about what she just saw. He had the funniest line. It was something like or "Are you going to believe me or your own eyes?" and, sure enough, it confused her!

    That's what he does. He knew that his supporters would show up at the Capitol and never pause to fact-check him. He counted on them not knowing how the Election Board certification happens and he was correct. He counted on them never doubting him because he promised them a rose garden. And, that tells us just how toxic he really is. He tweeted for them to come and put a target directly on the back of his own Vice-President with a stone-cold lie.

    What is more evil than setting up a loyal and respectful man to be hunted down and potentially harmed?

    What is more evil than telling thousands of people a total lie to get them angry enough to confront the man they believed was a traitor?

    What is more evil than watching that unfold on television and the only call he chose to make was to Senator Lee, barricaded in an office, not to ask if everyone was okay, not to ask if Pence was secure, not to ask if the injured officers needed help, not for any purpose other than imploring Senator Lee to stop the certification.

    Notwithstanding anything else, that tells most of us exactly who he is.

    I've got to hand it to him, AJ. He's got his con down pat. They don't even know he's been playing mind games. He's a pro.
     

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