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How would you solve the Transgender conundrum?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by Reasonablerob, Jan 13, 2022.

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How do we resolve the Transgender conundrum?

  1. Those born men are men, those born woman are women and surgery makes no difference

    26 vote(s)
    68.4%

  2. People should be allowed to define their gender as they will and it should be legally respected

    5 vote(s)
    13.2%

  3. We must separate bathrooms/changing rooms/sporting events for transgender people

    2 vote(s)
    5.3%

  4. Other?

    5 vote(s)
    13.2%
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  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    And 4 other girls as well.
     
    dairyair, Jan 22, 2022
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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yep.
     
    Bluesguy, Jan 22, 2022
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  3. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    How would you solve the Transgender conundrum?

    What conundrum? There are males and females. If someone is dissatisfied with their gender it changes nothing.
     
    fmw, Jan 23, 2022
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  4. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    UPenn Trans Swimmer Defeats Harvard Women’s Team in Two Races

    Lia Thomas, the transgender University of Pennsylvania swimmer who has beat women’s swimming records this season after formerly competing as a male, defeated Harvard University’s women’s team in two major races Saturday.

    Thomas swept the 100-meter and 200-meter freestyle races against Harvard, finishing the former in 50.55 seconds and the latter in 1:47.08 seconds.
    https://www.nationalreview.com/news/upenn-trans-swimmer-defeats-harvard-womens-team-in-two-races/

    So after proving his point he now knows not to win by too much, it raises red flags.
     
    Bluesguy, Jan 23, 2022
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    What if it is a "trans male" a female who pretends to be a man, should she be forced to swim as a man, or "trans men" should they all be forced to swim with females?
     
    Bluesguy, Jan 23, 2022
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    Nobody is forced to swim with anybody.
     
    fmw, Jan 24, 2022
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    Is that the norm?
     
    Heartburn, Jan 24, 2022
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    I say you are what you were born as, it doesn't change.
     
    Matt DilIon, Jan 24, 2022
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    No, it doesn't likely change.
    But at birth, the person can't really tell anyone about what they feel like as an individual.
    And no one really knows until they get somewhere between the ages of 5-10. It differs for everyone.
     
    dairyair, Jan 24, 2022
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    I have no idea. I don't know the swimmers times in the course of the swimmers career. I am sure if you are interested, you can look them up.
    But this was the 1st event that made news story.
     
    dairyair, Jan 24, 2022
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    I must say I'm surprised how opposed so many are to trans rights compromises?
     
    Reasonablerob, Jan 24, 2022
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    What is a man or a woman? Why confine ourselves to reason when we can make way for absurdity, if not for the glory of God. To what end do we entertain perversion, than to mock truth and glorify deceit. Is it a small matter to design our own demise.
     
    Injeun, Jan 24, 2022
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    Well not anymore ROFLMAO!!! So if the person is pretending to be the other sex so why should they be made to swim in those events. Or should everyone be able to just pick which races they want to swim in? Surely it's not fair if some do and some don't.
     
    Bluesguy, Jan 24, 2022
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    What? Men should not be allowed to compete in womens' sports. Period.
     
    fmw, Jan 24, 2022
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    I'm trying to find out how supporters of this will deal with the rules here if men who pretend to be women now swim with women should not women who pretend to be me swim with the men? I mean if a woman declares to the world she is a man then should she compete with the men under this new organization of sports we have?
     
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    If it is about how they "feel" then why is that a factor in PHYSCIAL compeitition which has nothing to do with "feeling"

    How does a female feel different from a male?
     
    Bluesguy, Jan 24, 2022
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Has anyone here ever heard of "weight classes" ?
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, Jan 24, 2022
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    Women have more fat, are consequently softer. I can attest from long and very pleasant experience that most girls I like to feel, feel as if they have no bones.
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, Jan 24, 2022
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    Aleksander Ulyanov, Jan 24, 2022
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    Pointless concern. People don't look for athletic competition in which they aren't competitive.
     
    fmw, Jan 25, 2022
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    There are two people who are the experts in defining your gender and gender identity. You and your doctor. He's not talking because of privacy laws. That leaves you. Of course I will respect you as the expert of your own gender/ gender identity.
     
    btthegreat, Jan 25, 2022
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    I am not an expert.
    I only use common sense. :)
     
    Lindis, Jan 25, 2022
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    Well they can't have a system where some people HAVE to compete in this group while others get to CHOOSE which group in which they will participate.
     
    Bluesguy, Jan 25, 2022
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    Some women have more fat, some men have more fat, the amount of fat does not distinguish nor does gaining more fat turn a man into a woman.
     
    Bluesguy, Jan 25, 2022
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    Ok. So ban participation in sports for other than their birth gender. It shouldn't even have to be banned. It should never have happened.
     
    fmw, Jan 25, 2022
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