The difference between Trump and Pence vs Biden and Harris

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  1. Condor060

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    So you assumed, because someone states the recovery was slow, that they didn't want any recovery at all.
    I appreciate you admitting that
     
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    I forgot to mention the rising crime… don’t know how I forgot that one.
     
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    Pretty much yep, since the most important thing is that the recovery HAPPENS, fast or slow is IRRELEVANT.
     
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    Yepp, as we all know, Pence did defend the Constitution on that fatal day on January 6th last year, while crooked Donald tried to overthrow American democracy.

    DJT is an enemy of America. He is a bad egocentric and serves his comrade Pootin. :(

     
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    So recovering from the current inflation in 6 months vs 8 years is irrelevant just as long as there is a recovery.
    Don't think you can sell that to anyone. Even the left.
     
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    yep, either Pence or Trump's son-in-law was running the show under Trump

    Trump had a roaring economy until COVID... (except he did not, the fed was dumping trillions into the economy to keep it afloat pre-covid)

    Biden has not had his 3 years without a pandemic yet, have to wait and see
     
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    one difference = i don't remember biden sending a lynch mob to hang ms harris.
     
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    Everything Biden touches turns to s... Dems even see that now. Their hate for Trump ended up biting them in the ass. They made the irrational decision to elect a 79 year old man who just can't do this anymore. He's become a pariah.
     
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    Pootin has made more gains for his country off of democrats than Trump. Under Obama he gained Crimea and under Biden he will gain the rest of Ukraine. Under Trump he gained nothing.
     
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    I don’t remember him doing that to Pence either. You must believe the term peacefully protest means go kill people.
     
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    Hello?

    The Russian/Ukraine dispute has been ongoing since 2014.
    The Chinese having been threatening to take back Taiwan since the 1960's. And they were building new sea bases while Trump was in office.
    Trump's economy never topped 3% GDP growth even before Covid, hardly "roaring" (even Jimmy Carter had better GDP growth).
    The Taliban had been setting up the retaking of the Afghan government for years - Trump's pull out would have ended the same as Biden's.

    I'm no fan of Biden - but let's be real about the differences.
     
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    Peaceful?
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    Jimmy carter had worse unemployment to start from the Trump did.
    China has been trying to take back Taiwan for a long time but under Biden they felt emboldened enough to increase their flyovers and threats.

    the Ukraine issue has been ongoing since 2014. Let’s review the record. Under Obama Ukraine lost the Crimea peninsula, under Trump they lost nothing, under Biden they’re about to lose the whole thing.

    Trumps pull out would have never ended the same because he’s not a cowardly whipped dog like Biden.
     
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    Comrade Poootin never lived "under" Obama. As a dictator, he simply did commit his crimes and murders as he liked. I don't think Joe will stop him either. Maybe Europe can.
     
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    We are all aware that the Russian build up on the Ukraine border has more to do with Putin's domestic problems than who the president is right? He does this frequently when his opposition gets traction like they did in 2020.
     
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    He’s doing this because the US has a weak leader and was proven in Afghanistan. Biden’s mistakes are coming home to roost. Putin knows he can get away with it which is why he’s doing it now rather than during Trump who would bomb a guy on a tarmac of an airport with no warning at all. Why not wait for a guy who ran from Afghanistan so fast that he left our own citizens stranded!!!!’ He’s a worthless puke!
     
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    “Person, Woman, Man, Camera, TV”.

    That episode is all one needs to know to understand the mental state of the former President.
     
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    Wrong, Pence ABSOLUTELY did the right thing on January 6. and he has my praise !!!
     
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    Trump negotiated the pullout/surrender/capitulation . . . and excluded our allies from the discussion and only spoke with the Taliban . . . and agreed to negotiate the release of thousands of Taliban soldiers, including the man who lead the Afghan takeover. Trump openly admitted that he knew Afghanistan would fall to the Taliban after we left (funny how the Trump and GOP websites were in a hurry to erase all information about the Taliban agreement soon after the Taliban took over). Trump also openly defended the invasion of Crimea, and tried to undo Russia's sanctions.
     
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    This negotiated plan was not followed by Biden. Meaning the new plan was all Biden’s. However, I agree that a pullout at all was bad and I did not support this planned move on Trumps behalf either. That does not negate the fact that that coward of a trash bag Biden ran so quick he left our own citizens behind. Trump would have never done that.
     
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    In the sense that Trump's plan was to do it even sooner than Biden did?

    If Trump had gone with his plan, then yes, it would have been just as chaotic. If not far more so.
     
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    The Afghanistan withdrawal was a national embarrassment that is squarely on Biden's shoulders I agree. However Putin would be doing this regardless of who is in office. Trump wouldn't bomb them for building up troops on a border.
     
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    If his statements on Crimea are any indication, Trump would be defending another incursion into Ukraine by Russia.
     
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    I will say he'd be more likely to. The optics of him in negotiations with Russia is something his opponents definitely would exploit.
     

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