The coup investigation is about to enter a new phase.

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  1. popscott

    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    Wow.. liberals are all of a sudden worrying about people taking the fifth after the last many years that many officials had to do was plead the fifth and walk out the door... Lois Lerner spilled her guts before Congress for five minutes, and then immediately pleaded the fifth and she was never touched...

    Here is exactly why Eastman pleaded the fifth... because the January 6 committee is a complete sham and he will not play their childish game like the committee thinks it has unlimited powers...

    https://www.politico.com/f/?id=0000017d-811e-dac5-abff-a11f4c830000

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    And even nut job Jones has rights to plead the fifth , even if the liberal nut jobs want to take that away... It is pretty bad when the Committee chairman actually alludes to Alex being guilty because he is pleading his right to the fifth...and this clown gets away with it...

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    Although you as a liberal want to deny Alex Jones of his fifth amendment rights... I am going to defend Alex's rights.... here is what Jones has to say about his pleading the fifth rights...
    He sued this clown show for what it is... a scam clown show...

    Alex Jones Jan. 6 Committee pleads the fifth, sues the committee
    https://www.scribd.com/document/548409947/Alex-Jones-Jan-6-Committee#download&from_embed

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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    From your article...""It’s unclear the extent to which then-President Trump considered the draft order.7""
    heck did he ever see it? Why would Trump have to do it.. those records and corrupted machines are by law held 22 months after an election..

    The draft talks about confiscating the Dominion voting machines... It would have been Trump's duty to seize illegal voting machines... Personally I have extensive knowledge in all types of machine and machinery ran by software .... the Dominion and every last one of them are boat anchors without it... There is no doubt in my mind the Dominion machines could be corrupted... and after finding out they WERE connected to the internet there is no doubt a very real possibility of tampering.. but surprise surprise... in fact the very same went on in Michigan as in Maricopa county... server security logs prior to 11:03 pm on November 4, 2020 are missing...
    """These logs would contain domain controls, authentication failures, error codes, times users logged on and off, network connections to file servers between file accesses, internet connections, times, and data transfers. Other server logs before November 4, 2020 are present; therefore, there is no reasonable explanation for the security logs to be missing.""""

    https://lenbilen.com/2021/08/30/ant...ding-case-mote-see-the-analysis-for-yourself/

    https://www.depernolaw.com/uploads/...n_forensics_report_[121320]_v2_[redacted].pdf


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    Time to show up in court system and make the case. Don't expect much but ridicule from the court.
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    facts are facts.... Let's let this unbiased Jan. 6 committee look into it.... they seem to think it means something when in fact it is exculpatory evidence for Trump and not against Trump... It is his job to uphold the laws... and there were laws that were broken... Dominion system has been shown to be more than questionably corrupted..

    Missing logs and files in both Michigan and AZ speaks volumes for anyone knowledgeable looking at these facts...
     
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    Your asserted 'facts' can withstand the evidentiary bar of any US court. Sorry.
    Best to keep blaming "Pelosi" ;)
     
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  8. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Think of the coup attempt in three parts. 1. The false accusations of voter fraud at the state level while calling for investigations even after vote counts had been verified. 2. The various attempts to replace the legit slates of electors with fake ones and or push crazy legal theories as to how the legit slates could be rejected. 3. Pressure on Pence to stop the certification of Biden's election.
     
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    Yea Pelosi’s dirty little finger are into this and liberal don’t have a clue….
     
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    Why fear an investigation if there is, actually, no credence to the accusations of voter fraud? Why worry? If someone wants to investigate me for a crime I say go right ahead. Waste your time. Methinks that Dems upset about an election fraud do "protesteth too much". If the Dems wanted to waste their time investigating I'd say go right ahead. There's nothing there... go waste your time if you wish. Why won't the Dems do the same? Their inability to let go seems to indicate there really might be a problem.
     
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    Because it is a political investigation, not a criminal one. There are no rules in politics. I had nothing at all to do with this riot but I would plead the fifth as well. I have nothing but distrust for politicians.
     
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  12. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You make it sound as though the investigations and recounts never happened.

    Barr: No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome

    Attorney General William Barr said Tuesday the Justice Department has not uncovered evidence of widespread voter fraud that would change the outcome of the 2020 presidential election. His comments come despite President Donald Trump’s repeated claims that the election was stolen, and his refusal to concede his loss to President-Elect Joe Biden.

    In an interview with The Associated Press, Barr said U.S. attorneys and FBI agents have been working to follow up specific complaints and information they’ve received, but they’ve uncovered no evidence that would change the outcome of the election.

    “To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have affected a different outcome in the election,” Barr told the AP.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/01/barr-no-evidence-of-fraud-election-outcome-441832
     
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    No, I make it sound as though a lot of folks feel there hasn't been ENOUGHT investigation. No one ever said that SOME investigation has been done done.Many folks think NOT ENOUGH. So why not continue?
     
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  14. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is absolutely true. But they are delusional conspiracy theorists who have been duped by a pathological liar offering no evidence.
     
  15. Lee Atwater

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    Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis, who’s investigating Trump’s 2020 election meddling, sent a letter to the FBI special agent in charge of the Atlanta field office on Sunday asking for extra security, per CNN.

    • Her request came in response to Trump attacking prosecutors who are investigating him as “radical” and “racist” during his Texas rally on Saturday. The ex-president also called for “the biggest protests we have ever had” in Atlanta, New York and other areas of the country where state- and county-level authorities are investigating him if they “do anything wrong or illegal.”
      • Trump’s attempt to stoke his white supporters’ resentment over supposed “anti-white” oppression isn’t subtle here: Willis, New York Attorney General Letitia James (D) and Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg are all Black.
    • Willis is seeking a “risk assessment” of her office and the courthouse where the special grand jury in her investigation is meeting, plus “protective resources to include intelligence and federal agents.”
    • The district attorney noted that her office had already been getting angry messages about her investigation, even before Trump called for protests on Saturday.
    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/morni...ection-after-trump-calls-for-insurrection-v-2
     
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    Trump Now Freely Admits He Wanted Pence To Overturn 2020 Election

    In case the true purpose of MAGAland’s January 2021 Pence election-pressure campaign wasn’t already clear up until this point, former President Donald Trump helpfully spelled it out in no uncertain terms on Sunday.

    Trump made the admission via a press release from his “Save America” PAC as he was railing against bipartisan lawmakers’ push to reform the Electoral Count Act (ECA), the 130-year-old law he had tried to weaponize to pressure then-Vice President Mike Pence into throwing out the 2020 election results.

    “Actually, what [the lawmakers] are saying, is that Mike Pence did have the right to change the outcome, and they now want to take that right away. Unfortunately, he didn’t exercise that power, he could have overturned the Election!” Trump ranted.

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-admits-wanted-pence-overturn-2020-election-results
     
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    Ahhh.... they disagree with YOU so they are "pathological liars". We get it.
     
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    “Election fraud” was pretext for bypassing the electoral process. Nothing more.
     
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    No, election fraud is real. I was even personally impacted by it when I received my mail-in ballot in California pre-marked that I was a Democrat. I'm a Republican. This isn't as bad as the folks that showed up to vote in person that were told they couldn't because they had already voted by mail or the boxes of ballots processed after the poll watchers went home.... but it proves the point.
     
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    Brace yourself for the painful truth. America is notorious for election fraud.

    “A study of Lyndon B. Johnson provides new evidence that the 36th President stole his first election to the United States Senate, in 1948.
    The book, ''Means of Ascent,'' by Robert A. Caro, is the second volume of a projected four-volume study, ''The Years of Lyndon Johnson.'' With a first printing of 250,000 copies, it is to be published on March 15 by Knopf, and excerpts have appeared in The New Yorker.”
    THE NEW YORK TIMES, How Johnson Won Election He'd Lost, By Martin Tolchin, Special To the New York Times, Feb. 11, 1990.
    https://www.nytimes.com/1990/02/11/us/how-johnson-won-election-he-d-lost.html
     
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    Former White House press secretary and Trump campaign adviser Kayleigh McEnany has turned over her texts to the House Jan. 6 Select Committee, according to ABC News.

    The committee had subpoenaed McEnany, along with some of ex-president Donald Trump’s other top cronies, in November to get to the bottom of their attempt to undermine the legitimacy of the 2020 election.

    McEnany met with the panel on Jan. 12 for a virtual interview, multiple outlets reported.

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/kayleigh-mcenany-turn-over-texts-to-jan-6-committee-investigation

    Marc Short, former Vice President Mike Pence’s chief of staff, reportedly testified before the Jan. 6 committee following a subpoena, according to CNN.

    Short testified before the committee in person last Wednesday during a lengthy session, CNN reported. Short’s testimony came after he previously produced a limited number of documents that were subpoenaed by the panel. The documents reportedly included a memo from Trump aide Johnny Mentee likening former President Trump to Thomas Jefferson. A source also noted to CNN that it’s customary for witnesses to hand over more documents when they testify.

    Short’s testimony occurred after months of discussions between his attorney Emmet Flood and lawyers on the committee, in addition to the panel’s subpoena. It is still unclear whether Pence himself will testify, but committee Chair Bennie Thompson confirmed earlier this month that the panel has asked to speak to Pence directly.

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/marc-short-testified-january-6-committee

    Despite the stonewalling by Trump acolytes the 1/6 committee keeps going about its work.
     
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    It happens in infinitesimally small instances.
     
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    Dems cut off the investigations... so we'll never really know.
     
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    First impeachment... Bupkus.
    Second impeachments... Nada.
    Mueller Report... Nothingburger.
    Jan 6th investigation... another waste of time.

    Investigate Trump?? Endless resources, millions of manhours, media madness, YEARS OF EFFORT... etc. And.... NOTHING! And it STILL CONTINUES!!!

    But question the integrity of the 2020 election? Dems cut you off at the KNEES!!! THEY WANT IT STOPPED! RIGHT NOW!
     
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