Feds looking at fake 2020 elector certificates for potential criminal charges

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    We already have records of what was attempted. It wasn't entered into the Congressional record because Pence resisted what he was commanded to do. Pretending it ain't so won't change the fact that it happened. Sorry, the facts are on our side. Even the Trump WH agrees with us that this was their plan.
     
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  2. Condor060

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    They were sent and registered on December 15, 2020, then publicized, and Democrats are just now figuring it out?
    Yeah, thats pretty dumb :roflol:
     
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    You will wake us all up when you have a charge against someone, won't you as we have been waiting on these attempted criminal Trump claims now for over 5 years with squat to show for it.
    And since you know more about it than the committee does, you might want to see if Pelosi will let you join it so you can start screaming why they haven't asked Pence to testify to this year old secret espionage claim.
    Its amazing how easy it is, even with the Congressional record, to flush out the most gullible.
     
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    There is more than one criminal investigation into Trump right now. At least one involves his election interference. Plus the DOJ is now looking into his team's interference plans. And this has nothing to do with the committee. You seem to be the only person in existence who had never heard of the alternate electors, and even the Trump WH says you are wrong when you claim this didn't happen.

    You may actually be the only living being in existence who denies that this happened. I'm being serious.
     
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    Condor060 Banned Donor

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    It was? Claims of trying to use false elector votes to defraud the election was in the news a year ago.
    Then you shouldn't have any problem showing us these links, should you.
     
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    Dude, I was literally posting about the alternate electors in 2021. Care to think things over a bit?
     
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    The ONLY people trying to claim 7 states were going to use those votes to knowingly defraud the election, is the far far left.
    And you try and act like we haven't seen this before?
    Please.
     
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    Unless your count White House council
     
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    The ONLY ones who made any waves at all was the liberal law firm, Law Forward.
    They ran it by the election commission, turned down
    They ran it by their local DA, turned down
    They ran it by their AG, who decided to pass it on to the DOJ so they don't have to deal with it.

    Now, a year later, its all of a sudden its election fraud news?
    Since the committee hasn't even called Pence to testify
    And the congressional record doesn't support these conspiracy theories
    And every local state law enforcement agency it was provided too turned it down on face value
    And the only ones promoting such is some liberal law firm and not a law enforcement or election commission

    I wouldn't hold my breath
     
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    If you have it, show it.
     
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    What are you talking about? Your article doesn't say republicans sent in forged electoral documents, just that results were sent., which is non specific. Republicans thought they could really hold ceremonies for Trump and that would nullify everything else. Dumb. Pathetic.
     
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    Errrr Trumps lawyer confessed on air

     
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    Confessed what
     
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    Ding Ding Ding Ding, we have a winner.
    Finally have a winner here folks
    Thats right, nobody claimed they were forged documents in an effort to defraud an election because they weren't.
    It was public knowledge why they were created and what they were doing not some espionage conspiracy theory.
    Very very good
     
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    Yes it was lol. Their was a strong push to toss out biden electoral votes for Trump. Why do you think people wanted to hang mike pence?

    What we didn't know is that Republicans had fake certificates handy? How do I know they wetter fake? Well they didn't have the permission of the governor to send these in, so it was a forgery because they were acting on behalf of the state.
     
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    Listen to the video
     
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    I did. He talks about the alternate electors that would be counted if the objections were ruled on.
    Is that your confession?
     
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    Yes it certainly is. He admitted that “alternate electors” were drafted and it was part of a scheme
     
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    The 7 states electors were objected too where fraud was cited. The objections were heard, voted on by Congress, and dismissed.
    Nobody attempted or conspired to toss out Biden votes. No alternate electors were provided to toss out Biden votes.
    And nothing you can conjure up is going to refute the actual Congressional session record.

    If you didn't know they had alternate electors that would be your fault as it was publicly provided on December 15, 2020. There is nothing illegal about having alternate electors. It would only be illegal if you tried to defraud the actual electors by using the alternates without a vote.

    You're grasping at air conjured up by the leftist media to get you frothing at the mouth over something that never happened and is going nowhere.
    If it was illegal it would have been cited when it was done, not a year down the road with all the fairy tales.
     
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    That is because Pence did not go along with the scheme
     
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    If Pence or any other VP ever tried to dismiss electors without a vote, the country would burn down in hours.
    What you are promoting is preposterous. If Trump telling Pence he could do (X) and Pence doesn't do it, it doesn't mean everybody on the planet was in on it.
    And if the Jan 6 commission had any thought that Pence was confronted by Republicans in this grand scheme, they would have hauled him into chambers instead of trying to depose Ivanka.

    Democrats need to get a grip.
     
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    Trump had thousands of MAGA's gather in Washington to lobby Pence on 1/6.

    He promoted this moment on all social media for over a month.

    Millions of Republicans mistakenly believed that Pence could flip the election.

    Who made them believe that?

    What planet were you on at the time?
     
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    Here's an interesting article that I believe points out the electors that committed some sort of fraud/forgery vs those that possibly didn't.

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    But Georgia’s would-be GOP electors chose not to include language clarifying that they would actually only be the “duly elected and qualified” electors in the event that a court challenge or other proceeding reversed the outcome there ― the approach taken by Trump slates in two other states.

    Five New Mexico Trump supporters filed a “certification” that began: “We, the undersigned, on the understanding that it might later be determined that we are the duly elected and qualified electors ...”

    And 20 Republicans in Pennsylvania went even further to make clear that their paperwork was not valid unless the Nov. 3 election result was reversed in their state. “We, the undersigned, on the understanding that if, as result of a final non-appealable Court Order or other proceeding prescribed by law, we are ultimately recognized as being the duly elected and qualified electors,” their paperwork began.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/59-republicans-joined-electoral-voter-110000351.html

    Much smarter quasi-seditionists in NM and PA....

    I also think it's funny that in that article, the seditionist in Georgia is openly admitting the T**** people were directing the action..
     
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    Speaking of Pence, here's something about his part of 1/6 I wasn't aware of... this is fascinating.

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    Instead of asking the designated tally-keepers to “count and make a list of the votes cast by the electors of the several states,” as then-Vice President Biden had instructed four years earlier, Pence told them to “announce the votes cast by the electors for each state, beginning with Alabama, which the parliamentarian has advised me is the only certificate of vote from that state and purports to be a return from that state that has annexed to it a certificate from an authority of that state purporting to appoint or ascertain electors.”

    Because only the true electors had such a certificate attached, that necessarily excluded the fraudulent Trump slates.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/59-republicans-joined-electoral-voter-110000351.html

    Hate to say it, but Pence looks better every day that goes by. His language used there might be used if and when they modify the Electoral Counting Act eventually.

    I thank him for his single day of service to America!
     
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    Wouldn't that make Democrats about the dumbest people on the planet since they haven't even considered subpoenaing Pence to testify?
    But you know better?
     

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