The end of the world order as we know it

Apart from complaining about how weak Biden is etc............ WHAT would folks on here suggest as a plan of action in dealing with Russia??

I......what should Biden do?? (if anything)

 

Hmm...you don't seem too eager answering my questions.

 

You don't seem to like my answers.. I tolod you.. watch the doc and then get back with me. I find exchanges with you unpleasant and unfruitful.. I do not konw what your problem is.

 

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I'll do you one better than that. In the fall of 2017, I actually died and experienced a tiny sliver of the "place" y'all call "heaven". I don't remember much about it, but I can tell you two things for certain... It is a "judgement-free zone", and these little pathetic things we call "lives" happen thousands... maybe tens of thousands of times or even more... a LOT more.

I can tell you with absolute certainty based on my own personal experience, it ain't anything like what you expect. Sorry.

 

I'm not in the statue business and Milosevic died of natural causes.

 

There is no plan on the table to bring Ukraine into either the EU or NATO anytime soon. The step by step process you mention is exactly what is being discussed. What Russia is demanding is a preemptive guarantee that Ukraine will never join NATO, ever. Neither NATO nor the Ukrainians will ever agree to that.

 

No problem. I was only looking for direct answers to the questions I asked, but I give up at this point. People like you have been saying "the end it near" for a long time because in their minds everything around them always lines up with with something in the Bible. When I see a world leader broker a peace deal in Israel and help build the 3rd temple, then the end is probably near. When Trump was president, some called him the "King of Israel", and when he made it a priority to move the embassy to Jerusalem, I wondered if he would also announce that he will fund the building of the temple, sign a phony peace deal and one day desecrate the new temple. We'll see what happens in 2024. He could be the "wounded head which healed"?

PS Why not just put me on ignore as opposed to complaining about me and calling me names? I dont get it when people do that.

No need to respond.

"One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast."

 

This is so true!
Damn, I could not think of a better description!
In many ways they are very naïve.

 

I have to keep at least one of you around to see what is being parroted by your side.

 

Absolutely. The clear cowardice on Biden's part that surrendered American citizens and allies to the Taliban and had us running in panic like a scalded dog from Afghanistan has blossomed into a situation where our enemies no longer fear us, or even care about us. Russia just reopened Ukraine talks and specifically UNINVITED us to the table.

 

Look.
Covid numbers are up all over the world because of the new variant Omicon. The issue isn't the number of infected, it is the number who are hospitalised or have died from it and they are down. I appreciate the infected reduce productivity but that is happening everywhere.
Enemies have been making moves on your authority since forever.
Inflation is the result of Covid, transport problems, production problems (absences etc) . Be grateful your relevant government doesn't also put up taxes on income too as has th UK government done. Inflation up, income down. They are nuts.
Violent crime has always rocked US cities (and a lot of others too).
As have thefts.
Russia has been hacking your infrastructure? Do you mean technology? That too has been going on for years.

Now I respect your concerns about these issues and would love them to be sorted yesterday, but since they existed pre Biden, and Trump had four years to deal with them, why are they still issues???

These seem to me to be exactly the kind of issues that define America's greatness and yet Trump obviously didn't deal with them with respect to MAGA.

They are issues that will ALWAYS be there, and everywhere else too. No national leader can deal with them in ONE YEAR.

I can agree that Biden's decisions about Afghanistan were IMO poor but to pile that list above onto him too is just disingenuous. He isn't anymore able to produce miracles than anyone else. Including Trump. Obviously.

 

What did he do with gun rights? IIRC, I think he said something about taking the guns and then have due process.

 

He banned bump stocks and changed the definition of a machine gun without congressional approval

 

Resign and ask for Trump to resume the position if you ask most of the Trumpers here. They are clearly still in love with the man rather than whatever his "policies" were and wish nothing more than for him to run again in 2024 so they can once more demonstrate their devotion to his bronze visage, his goddess of a wife, heartbreaking beauty of a daughter and Ouday and Quesay, his sons

 

I would say kill any Russian who comes across a border into a democratic country with ill intent. The Assassination of that murdering Putin would be good. Or maybe just stand in unity with democratic countries. As in talk Germany into killing the pipeline deal that is going to feed Russians. We should not economically support communist rats.

 

Ok. In your opinion its 100% US responsibility to defend a country like Ukraine.

Neo-conservatism is making a come-back.

Well, that didn't take much.

 

If Trump is elected again Ukraine is gone and Taiwan too. Trump LIKES dictators. The President-For-Life wants to make common cause with them. An oligarchy of autocrats, that's what he and his acolytes see the world as.

 

I just saw this about 10 minutes ago. He turned his back on the Capitol rioters and now he's using them to gaslight people to vote for him?

 

Let’s talk facts.

Russia and China have said praising things about one another about working together.

Russia and China have conducted trade with one another and only increasing it as time goes on. They have even traded oil in their own currency to further undermine the rules of trade and diminish American influence

Russia and China have conducted multiple joint military training exercises and sometimes included Iran. These training exercises were anywhere from near England, to near Japan and got so close they caused them scrambled jets to intercept in response multiple times.

Russia and China both have rulers that as of recently made their rule indefinite. They have also killed anyone who stands in the way of their power and control.

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So yea I support a unified very hard line stance against these types militarily and economically. I think we should ban all trade from China. Give each American company a time period to either move to a democratic country or lose all sales to the U.S..

I think we should put economic pressure on Germany to kill the pipeline coming from Russia. Russias economy is over 50% oil and gas. Democratic nations should be buying the stick they will use to kill us with.

i think if Russia goes in any democratic nation with Ill intent they should be stopped lethally and same goes to China.

 

Like I said, - Neo-conservatism / world policing is making a come-back.

 

Russia is making this move now because we finally pulled out of Afghanistan. That was going to happen even if Trump had won. Trump would not be able to stop Russia from invading the country on it's doorstep any more than Biden is. Trump would have made some big speeches and done some posturing and Putin would have ignored him just like he has Biden. They know America is not going to commit itself to a large scale conflict over there on their doorstep. We'd be idiots to do that. And thanks to Trump insulting all of our allies for years, building the coalition among nations that would be necessary to even attempt it is pretty much out of the question.

 

If we don’t do the policing Russia and China will.

 

I don't think it has anything to do with Afghanistan. Russia did the same thing in 2018, and will probably do again sometime in the future. Overreaction is the worst thing the West could do, but they know better.

 

Really ... do tell .. "Biden Perhaps" - the nonsense trope .. nah .. that would be silliness .. what is this weakness you think ?