Arizona appeals court shoots down state Senate effort to keep 2020 election audit records secret

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  1. balancing act

    balancing act Well-Known Member

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    If there was, the traffic here would lighten up!
     
  2. Phyxius

    Phyxius Well-Known Member

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    Although, shouldn't Rule 16 cover OPs/threads like this one? 1584414801.3623-smiley.gif

    16. MISINFORMATION AND QUESTIONABLE INFORMATION

    Threads and posts meeting these three criteria will be considered misinformation and are not permitted: a) the information has been deemed to be false by authorities or deemed to be questionable; b) the information is presented in a factual way, such that a reader might not understand that the information is being debated or examined; c) the information has the potential to cause significant harm to readers. Threads and posts may be removed for this reason even if they cite a source, particularly if the source has been identified as a common source of misinformation by reputable sources. Threads and posts that fall into a gray area in regards to questionable information may be allowed to remain, but with a warning notice affixed to them and/or may have a portion edited.
     
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    My question is how does one read the article and jump to the conclusion it's about democrats?

    You have to be hellbent on evildems to even make that leap.
     
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    Especially, Since...
    Before this artictle even appeared:

    Everybody KNEW That The GOP Controlled the AZ Senate...
    And...
    Everybody KNEW that it was The GOP Trying to hide this Info...

    Which, makes the OP even more puzzling...:smh:
     
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    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have said it before here on PF, but I will say it again.

    There should be NO privacy of communication in elected office. ZERO. Emails, phone calls, conversations - all of it. They are our employees. They work for us. We have a right to know EVERYTHING they say and discuss with others.
     
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    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'll give a pass when it comes to information that is truly National Security, like the travel paths, dates, and times of Nuclear Material. But yeah.... the redaction game these scumbags get away with are unhealthy for a Free nation.
     
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    I love how not a single Republican came in here to help the OP out.

    Democrats would LOVE it if you posted every single joke fact about this “audit”.
     
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    I still can't believe that there are still 4 people on record as "Liking" the OP.

    Unless, they are just trying to rack up reciprocal "Likes" playing the "I'll like yours/you'll like mine" game.

    Anyway, back on-topic, as long as the AZ Senate has people like Karen Fann--The place is going to be heavy on Fantasies, Lies, and Conspiracies.
     
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    balancing act Well-Known Member

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    That's interesting! I had not read that Rule. Problem with this post is that the information, as provided by the link, was accurate. It was the "take" the op typed in that was, at the very least, deceptive, if not completely false.
    I don't see a good way to control "bad" opinions. I still think it is up to each individual who posts to check the facts, read the information and use common sense and logic (critical thinking skills) to disseminate the information and come up with a sound post or response.
    From what I've seen here, that would be difficult to impossible to control.
    Thanks for posting that!
     
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    Yes, you definitely have to question if not their intelligence then their ethics especially as two of them added their likes after being shown conclusively that the OP points were crap.

    Blindly supporting any right wing lies as if they were truths
     
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    This place needs it's own section for Thread Fails ... you could also name it Credibility Checker ...
     
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    Crazy Socialist Lefty Doug Logan of Cyber Leftists has agreed to not only provide all Cyber Ninja records in response to the Arizona Court ruling, but he's going to provide them with never-before-seen photos from his honeymoon...

    DemocRATS do nothing but avoid court rulings... They are evil....

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/cyber-ninjas-ceo-refuses-comply-044828207.html

    I got that right, didn't I?
     
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    Seems the crazy Democrat lefties in the Maricopa Country Board of Supervisors is STILL trying to hide that their election servers were hooked up to the Internet for the Chinese to access to change Trump votes to Brandon

    Well, the Az Senate will bring that corruption to light, potentially this week, by bringing in some real Americans to audit those machines and prove they were connected. Sure, this has already been done twice, but THIS TIME, it'll be done right, by PATRIOTS....

    And sure, the Cyber Ninjas hand recount of the entire county essentially matched the reported results, but those RINO's at the Ninjas CLEARLY were bought off by George Soros to lie about their recount... It's obvious to anybody with eyes that T**** won Maricopa County by hundreds of thousands of votes... I mean, did you see how many people showed up at his Arizona rally last week??

    https://www.azcentral.com/story/opi...-election-audit-giant-waste-money/9289548002/

    I got that right, didn't I?
     
  14. balancing act

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    Wow, nothing escapes your well-trained eagle eye!
    I think you've finally figured out how those evil dems cheated Trump out of an election that we all know he couldn't have possibly lost!
    Thank you tax payers of Arizona!
     
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    For some reason (obviously somebody is tracking my clicks), Yahoo presents almost everything going on in Arizona in my Yahoo news feed... It's usually fun reading, because Arizona has gone mucho loco... there are some pretty die-hard NON wackos out there reporting all these little details...

    2 especially... the Laurie Roberts of that article and somebody named EJ Montini.... their articles use a good blend of humor, sarcasm, and downright disgust at what's been going on in their state/county since the 2020 election.

    I suggest everybody read as much from those 2 as possible... here's an easy way to do that...

    https://www.azcentral.com/staff/2646519001/laurie-roberts/
    https://www.azcentral.com/staff/2646830001/ej-montini/
     
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    The results have already been published. And debunked by the Republican legislature that hired them. Cyber Ninjas is trying to hide additional records (and defying a court order to do so). Republicans had apparently joined them in hiding this info.
     
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    Except this taxpayer funded disaster failed to produce the desired result. And is costing additional millions to replace the machines that the inept, inexperienced conspiracy wacko "Cyber Ninja" ruined along the way. And now wasting even more taxpayer money in court cases where Cyber Ninjas is desperately hiding information that legally belongs to the public.

    These people will literally believe anything, won't they?
     
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    @Condor060 @lemmiwinx

    So, the organization suing for transparency is American Oversight, which is a left-leaning, anti-Trump activist group that has also sued Cyber Ninjas for transparency.

    The lawyer for the AZ Senate is Kory Langhofer, a conservative lawyer for the Trump campaign who has represented the campaign in lawsuits related to the 2020 election and publicly defended the claim that Trump actually won Arizona.

    What information does American Oversight want? Well, if you read your article, you can find out. They want internal communications from Cyber Ninjas and between Republican lawmakers Karen Fann (who hired Cyber Ninjas in the first place) and Warren Petersen.

    So, what's more likely?

    1) Cyber Ninjas and AZ Senate Republicans don't want to release this information, and so the Senate hired a pro-Trump attorney to protect them against an anti-Trump activist group
    2) Cyber Ninjas uncovered something big that shows Trump actually won AZ and which they (for some reason) didn't include in their public report, but Democrats brainwashed them and Senate Republicans into refusing to divulge this information and then hired a pro-Trump lawyer to defend against an anti-Trump activist group getting their hands on communications that Cyber Ninjas/Republicans could willingly divulge to the public at any time.

    Be honest.
     
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    Why can't we simplify elections? They had it right by the 18th century. People mark paper ballots with signatures. Makes it a lot harder for dead people to vote. At least we need to ban late night ballot dumps after 4am when everybody's gone home.
     
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    Don't you find it odd the Republican controlled senate said this was all about transparency, but here they are trying to bury documents.
     
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    How many dead people voted?
     
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    Signatures are still required. There's no evidence of "dead people voting" (which would be EXTRAORDINARILY easy to catch) in the last election, except for half a dozen or so for Trump. And, no, not "everyone" has gone home during these supposed "dumps." You sure are looking for a lot of distractions and excuses to run away from the fact that you guys were wrong here.
     
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    A few dead folks voted Republican in 2020.
     
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    @lemmiwinx , if this topic were about Dems failing to be transparent, why is the case called American Oversight v. Karen Fann et al?
     
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    Nobody knows, they're standing silent.
     

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