DeSantis stamps his feet while peeing in to the wind.

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  1. clennan

    clennan Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They haven't "pulled the treatment that is effective against certain variants" - again, you CAN still be prescribed Regeneron under EUA if the variant is not omicron.

    The variant can be identified through genome sequencing but this is currently only possible for a small sample of tests, and takes so long that the information is of no benefit to patients - by the time they would get it, it would be way too late. And, what would be the point? As 99% of cases are omicron, it's almost certainly the variant, and other options are available which are effective regardless of which variant you have.

    As for wanting to see absolutely everything and anything they base their decisions on, I'm glad you feel qualified to second-guess the entire body of expertise and research - which does includes independent entities - available to the FDA. I'm sure if you send them your critique, they'll amend their decisions accordingly.

    And who's to say the info is not available? Perhaps it is, if you look hard enough.
     
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    I know many people living in Florida. They can still wear masks and take the pharma product you call a "vaccine" if they choose.

    Why do you need the government telling you what to do?
     
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    Bravo.
     
  4. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What is it about this you can't comprehend?

    In light of the most recent information and data available, today, the FDA revised the authorizations for two monoclonal antibody treatments – bamlanivimab and etesevimab (administered together) and REGEN-COV (casirivimab and imdevimab) – to limit their use to only when the patient is likely to have been infected with or exposed to a variant that is susceptible to these treatments.
     
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    Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signed four bills targeting Covid-19 measures like vaccine mandates into law Thursday, the latest step the Republican governor has taken to oppose the Biden administration and further restrict public and private employers from imposing Covid-19 mitigation measures.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/alison...s-school-mask-rules-and-more/?sh=4cbc949977cf

    Why? Because he's following the science? No. Because he's courting Trump's moronic base.
     
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    It all sounds great, but here is the catch-22: you won’t know your variant and you have a limited time window to administer MABs before it’s too late, and figuring out your variant can be a real challenge. In effect, FDA banned the use of these MABs.
     
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    What can’t you understand? We don’t want mitigation measures, we want treatment! We want to get back to the good old days: you get sick > you get treatment > you recover and move on with your life. Granted, Paxlovid is available, so the whole discussion is moot and just underlines the stupidity of Bidens administration.
     
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    My bad, I thought they completely revoked EUA.
     
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    Well, there is the fact that Biden is following the science. He didn't make this choice. He is aligned and supportive of what the experts are saying.

    As far as I know, he hasn't blurted out "disinfectants and UV lights" or "Hydroxychloroquine". so he can't possibly be counterproductive than that.
     
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    No competent medical staff is going to administer MAB's as a "just in case" measure.

    https://www.upmc.com/coronavirus/monoclonal-antibodies
     
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    Where ivermectin and hydrochloroquiene are unavailable there is a substitute to when combined with vitamin C, vitamin D, and Zinc will have the same effect vs China virus. It’s over the counter too. They can’t take it away. It’s Quercetin. It has the properties needed to like ivermectin get the vitamin D and Zinc inside the covid affected cells.
     
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    What we also know is a region of India which doesn't use vaccines has little Covid complications.
     
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    I'm looking for alternatives to experimental vaccines which aren't designed to attack the current variant of Covid...I'm also looking for alternatives to experimental vaccines which permanently change my immune system with every jab which causes an uncertain, er, unstudied effect on my immune system...There are all kinds of alternatives to vaccines which the federal gov't doesn't endorse, er, tries to censor...I hope I'd don't get censored.

    Call my approach the homeopathic approach if you so desire.:roll: It's my body. My choice for the time being because the fascists in the federal gov't may try to make it their choice of how to treat my body.:roll:
     
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    You're tap dancing around the fact that no peer reviewed study has shown Ivermectin to have any efficacy in treating COVID. The main thrust of the thread being DeSantis, in order to appease The Following, chose to place a heavy emphasis on MAB's which are not effective against omicron. Rather than accept responsibility for making a public health decision based on politics he is instead blaming Biden (the FDA) for making his error clear.
     
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    Well now, peer reviewed studies have also 'demonstrated' that masks prevent the contracting and spread of Covid.:roflol:
     
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    Im on your side regarding your freedom to decide how to treat or prevent a disease.
    To me, promoting an off-label medication when treatments are available just seems strange. I refuse to take the vaccine, but I did take MABs when it was my time. I view Covid as any other disease - you get sick -> you get treatment-> you move on with your life.
     
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    I just won't take any more boosters. There is too much data that the booster doesn't treat the current variant of Covid (this is important because too many are hung up on number of cases).
    Multiple boosters experimentally and permanently alter your immune system. Multiple boosters don't allow for natural immunity. I trust eons of evolutionary machinations of our immune system and not the 1+ year of experimental protein spiking which occurs in the booster.
     
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    somebody has been watching too many commercials on Fox

    Quercetin this is just another vitamin scam that creates expensive urine

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quercetin
     
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    Nope. Researchers found that surgical masks impede the spread of COVID-19 and that just a few, low-cost interventions increase mask-wearing compliance.
     
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    It’s an over the counter food supplement. An RX for Zithromax antibiotic is helpful too and since covid often affects the lungs, getting the go to antibiotic for sinusitis and bronchitis which has some anti viral properties is easy enough.
     
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    If mask wearing impedes the spread, why do such places like NY state and California, for examples, which mandate mask wearings have some of the highest transmission rates in the country?
     
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    (CNN)A contentious confirmation hearing for Florida Surgeon General Dr. Joseph Ladapo ended abruptly Wednesday after Democrats walked out in protest, prompting Republicans to immediately vote to favorably recommend Ladapo.

    Democrats grew increasingly exasperated at Ladapo for his lengthy, circular responses that wouldn't directly answer their questions about his background and the state's response to the pandemic.
    Five times state Sen. Lauren Book asked Ladapo if vaccines worked against the coronavirus. Ladapo refused to say.
    "Do the vaccines work against preventing Covid-19? Yes or no?" Book, a Democrat from Plantation, asked. Ladapo responded: "Yes or no questions are not that easy to find in science."

    He later conceded that the vaccines have "relatively high effectiveness for the prevention of hospitalization." US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data shows that in November, unvaccinated adults had 15 times the risk of dying from Covid-19 compared with fully vaccinated adults. In the same month, unvaccinated adults had 68 times the risk of dying from Covid-19 compared with fully vaccinated adults who had received booster doses.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/26/poli...orida-surgeon-general-confirmation/index.html

    CDC: Unvaccinated seniors 50 times more likely to be hospitalized than those with boosters
    https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...mes-more-likely-to-be-hospitalized-than-those

    Why Florida Dems walked out of Joseph Ladapo's confirmation hearing
    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow...joseph-ladapo-s-confirmation-hearing-n1288110

    Is it surprising that DeSantis would nominate a clown who refused to give a straight answer to questions posed by a Dem state senator? No. Because everything about Ron's approach to COVID has been politicized.
     
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