Feds looking at fake 2020 elector certificates for potential criminal charges

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  1. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    I wonder if you understand your own logic.
     
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    Lets figure it out
    The left claims a few hundred rioters with flag poles were attempting to take out the Capital police, defend their position from the military, take control of the capital, take control of the country, and install their own leader labeling them as insurrectionist
    The right says they are rioters
    Yet there are no charges for insurrection out of over 780 arrested with 100% video evidence from over 100 cameras

    The left claims this mass clandestine conspiracy of fake electors were chosen to secretly defraud the election
    Yet it was public news on December 15, 2020 why they filed and who they were but the left just got the news a year later?

    The left claims millions of Republicans were involved in a mass conspiracy for Pence to steel the election in Congress
    Yet nobody on the committee has thought to subpoena him for questioning. Instead they are questioning Ivanka.

    The left claims Biden and his DOJ has terminated Trumps executive privilege
    Yet everyone else on the planet knew they couldn't do that which is why it had to go to the SCOTUS

    The left claims the document they found proves Trump was going to use the military to seize all voting machines
    Yet it never happened, its unsigned, and they don't even have a clue who wrote it or who saw it

    Are we not seeing a pattern of the lefts logic here?
     
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  3. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    Far-right militia members charged with seditious conspiracy for U.S. Capitol riots

    Who then was part of this conspiracy?

    And who did SCOTUS prove right?
     
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    Which is for planning the attack on the Capital. Not insurrection.

    The only place we have found this mass conspiracy is in the minds of the left. As per usual

    They proved you were wrong. Biden and his DOJ has no authority to invade any presidents executive privilege
    But your deflection was funny
     
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    That ruling being made 20 minutes before the truck from the National Archives was backing up to the Capitol building....
     
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    Bullshit
     
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    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yeah, I was kidding.... it was only 700+ pages.... the Archives probably just used a bike messenger....
     
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    It was only 700 pages as Biden and his DOJ doesn't have the authority to invade any presidential executive privilege like they claimed.
    If Biden wasn't so full of BS, he would have taken 4 years worth up front.
    But if you want to lick the egg off their faces for knowingly fabricating their authority, you go right ahead.
     
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    Is it possible you don't know T**** only tried to protect those 700 documents, already allowing everything else requested by the committee regarding him to be provided?

    I'd say it's on the 95% scale you don't.....

    Currently, the only documents requested by the committee about T**** NOT provided to the committee are those the CURRENT administration deemed under executive privilege...
     
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    Only the governor can certify electors according to the states law. The fake certificates say they are thr duly electors, which they are not, which means they won't around state laws.
     
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    .:roflol:
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    So you are either knowingly lying or you have the link to Trump signing over executive privilege and releasing documents to the committee?
    .I'll wait while you dig that up

    :roflol:
    The only documents released to committee by the SCOTUS are the documents involved with Jan 6.

    In a statement released with the ruling they disagreed with the appeals court’s opinion on whether a former president can invoke executive privilege.
    “A former President must be able to successfully invoke the Presidential communications privilege for communications that occurred during his Presidency, even if the current President does not support the privilege claim,” “Concluding otherwise would eviscerate the executive privilege for Presidential communications.”

    On Tuesday, The Associated Press reported that the House committee had agreed to defer its attempt to get some documents, at the request of the Biden administration. The White House was concerned that releasing all of the Trump administration documents sought by the committee could compromise national security and executive privilege.

    The agreement to keep some Trump records away from the committee is memorialized in a Dec. 16 letter from the White House counsel’s office. It mostly shields records that do not involve the events of Jan. 6 but were covered by the committee’s sweeping request for documents from the Trump White House about the events of that day.

    https://www.usnews.com/news/politic...e-says-trump-privilege-claim-should-be-tossed


    Anything else you want to fabricate while you're here?
     
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    Hopefully we can all depend on Democrats not knowing better and chasing their tales on yet another fake claim rabbit hole.
     
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    Don't have that because it's completely implied....

    SNIP
    Regarding the second and third tranches of records, NARA notified Plaintiff and President Biden on September 9 and 16 that it was planning to disclose 888 pages of additional records, three of which NARA later withdrew because they were not Presidential records. NARABr.at 11-12. Plaintiff asserted privilege over 724 pages.
    ENDSNIP

    So by not asserting EP over the remaining 161 documents, those were likely turned over to the committee before any lawsuit was planned. The remainder have now been turned over to the committee after the SCOTUS ruling... If the 161 weren't turned over originally, they certainly were with the 724.

    It's over... the committee has everything NARA has identified, less those withheld by the Biden administration...

    If you think otherwise, I find that sad and it's probably time for you to turn to the 'there's nothing in them' argument. And I won't argue that with you because I don't know...
     
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    Sorry, your likely implied doesn't work.

    You have the SCOTUS ruling on just allowing the 700 pages and why
    And you have the WH legal staff confirmation of the only information received.
    When you can find something that isn't likely implied, you let me know
     
  15. Arkanis

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    According to MAGA, the people who participated in the Capitol Riot were there by chance.

    And Trump had absolutely nothing to do with it.

    And if he has any responsibility, he acted alone.

    Absolutely no one helped him overturn this election.

    Executive Privilege Is Lawless

    And the Supreme Court is okay with that.
     
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    Who is MAGA. Another made up cult in your mind? Do you have a link to this MAGA you can share.
    The DOJ just claimed (since you seem to be news deficient) they are charging 10 people with seditious conspiracy for planning this attack several months in advance. So you will have to make up your mind which claim you want to side with.

    Which has what to do with your fake SCOTUS claim that I already debunked?

    Yet more fabrications from the left as expected.
    When the SCOTUS already ruled just days ago and commented on their ruling

    In a statement released with the ruling they disagreed with the appeals court’s opinion on whether a former president can invoke executive privilege.
    Meaning the appeals court says he can't but the SCOTUS says he can
    Next

    “A former President must be able to successfully invoke the Presidential communications privilege for communications that occurred during his Presidency, even if the current President does not support the privilege claim,” “Concluding otherwise would eviscerate the executive privilege for Presidential communications.”
    Sorry for your loss
    Anything else you want to make up?
     
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    Which part is fake? That only governors are the ones certify the results of their state? Or that Republicans said they were duly elected?

    If governor wants to send two slates of electors, they can, but that is not what happened here.
     
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    And if you would continue to let us know how that legal fight in Arizona over the Cyber Ninjas materials is going??

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    Awwww Did that thread hurt your feelings.
    Poor thing
     
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    Let me get this straight
    You think, 7 states, knowingly falsified elector documents, in the hope that nobody would possibly catch it, and all 7 of those states votes would go to Trump instead of Biden, hoping the state Congressmen from those 7 states, wouldn't have known the difference when they voted on Jan 6th thus changing the outcome of the election?

    This is what you're saying.
     
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    No, it killed what tiny vestige remained of your forum cred.... Have you read the posts? Probably best you don't....
     
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    Is that why you faked your post about picking up the documents from the Archives, Trump releasing documents to the committee, and the only documents left for the committee to get were the last 700?
    And you think your opinion carries some kind of weight?
    Thats funny
     
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    I can do no wrong after your thread... We're all bulletproof after that one... No claim on here (even my accurate observation) cannot be viewed outside of the lens of your Arizona Senate thread....

    The conspiracy theory guys are super happy you took the bullseye off of them...
     
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    We all know that. As long as you can find an excuse, you prefer lying to actual debate.
    Usually because its all ya got
    Glad I was able to help you out of the closet.
     
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    No I'm not. I didnt say they hoped nobody would catch then. They sent them in the hopes Pence would throw out Biden electors and count theirs. They hoped congress would play along, but you fail to realize what they were doing broke state law as only governors can certify results.

    If Congress takes the false electors, that would be a coup right because those states already certified Biden.
     
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