U.S. says Russia is planning a staged attack in Ukraine to justify an invasion

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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Can't fathom? Nice try. As usual the only thing measurably less than the width of your view is it's depth. Look at the Russian geopolitical situation. I know geography isn't lefties friend. Of the big four, Russia has far and away the smallest population, the biggest land area and is increasingly behind technologically. They are stuck between the two largest powers population wise, and has the third and currently the most technologically advanced a 20 minute boat ride to the east across the Bering sea. So yes the Russian leadership, is understandably a bit paranoid.

    Now please tell what we gain by incorporating Ukraine into NATO?
     
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    Ukrainian Oligarchs bought the Biden family after Russia took Crimea back during the Obama/Biden Administration and no one did squat. It looks like what they were buying by filling Hunters pockets was the US military.

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    No, it is about Hunter Biden. You need to broaden the media with which you interface.
     
  4. Hey Now

    Hey Now Well-Known Member

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    Hunter who?
    It would appear that Trump's DOJ and Trump couldn't make this conspiracy real either. Go figure and that should tell the worshipers it is and was BS.
     
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    fmw Well-Known Member

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    No point in repeating what I said earlier.
     
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    Yeah, it was debunked by Trump's corrupt DOJ.
     
  7. Zorro

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    Looks like this claim in the OP is yet another pile of lying warmonger crap from the Biden WH.

    NATO, Ukraine, Russia, Germany, and France don't want war, isolating Biden.

    Macron, again: Putin will not "further escalate" Ukraine crisis

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  8. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    Warning the public that Putin might use a false pretext to launch an invasion was quite justified.

    In fact, making the information public neutralizes the Russian plan.

     
  9. Zorro

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    Sure, and I threw straw outside my window to make sure the lions didn't attack last night, and they didn't!

    Watch the WH lie about "Russian False Flag" operation.

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    WH asked the dreaded question: "Where is the evidence?"
    Yeah, we've heard this crap before. We had liars claims that 17 intelligence agencies assured us that they had smoking gun proof that Trump was a deeply compromised pawn of the Putin, and it all turned out to be lies, smears and innuendo bought and paid for by the lying DNC, the Obama/Biden WH and the Crooked Hillary campaign, but not before it was laundered by the corrupt FBI into warrants to spy on the Campaign, Transition Team and even the president himself.
    So where is the evidence?
    Having none, Price began repeating the unsubstantiated claims while introducing more wiesel words to hide behind when NONE is ever produced:
    As you can guess, nary a shred was produced from this WH full of paid liars.

    From suggested to derived:
    After Vietnam's "Gulf of Tonkin", Saddam's "WMD's" and the "Trump is a Putin Puppet" crap, finally, some reasonable skepticism before we let these lying bastards lie us into yet another war.

    And what did the lying WH do when pressed for evidence? Claimed that asking for evidence = a russian propagandist!

    That figures. It's yet another lying propaganda push from the lying WH.
    British "Intelligence" coordinated with Crooked Hillary, the Obama/Biden Administration, the lying DNC, and the corrupt FBI in the pack of Russia/Trump lies that now is in smoldering ruin, damn right we doubt the credibility of US and British Intelligence! They are a bunch of lying spying liars. Show us Evidence!
    Edward Snowden
    @Snowden

    Snowden, of course, exposed to the world that James Crapper was lying his ass off in his sworn testimony to the US Congress that US Intelligence was NOT spying on Americans' phone calls.

    "Earlier in the day", paid liars at "the White House announced that a top ISIS leader had been killed in what seemed initially like a successful effort by US forces. However, when pressed by the media, White House Press Secretary" and paid liar "Jen Psaki admitted that the operation left 13 civilians dead, including six children and four women."

    Bribed and lying "President Joe Biden said that the target of the operation, ISIS chief Abu Ibrahim al-Hashimi al-Qurayshi, blew himself up with a suicide bomb that killed him, his wife, and his children. However, he was not able to substantiate evidence of the suicide bomb."

    https://thepostmillennial.com/watch...provide-evidence-of-russian-false-flag-claims

    Looks like everyone has these liars numbers.
    We all watched Biden blow up the children with the water bottles and claim he had "taken out a terrorist!"
     
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    What part of "in the hopes that its publication would deter Russia from following through" you didn't understand? This doesn't seem to be warmongering to me, and is not misaligned with what allies are doing. Looks like this move by the State Department is meant to prevent this from happening. If this were warmongering, they'd be rooting for it to happen. What you are saying makes no sense whatsoever.
     
  11. Zorro

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    I understood it perfectly, it's not evidence, it's yet another unsubstantiated self-serving claim.
    Actually, let's examine that.
    1. NATO is a DEFENSIVE alliance. It's mission is not securing the borders of Ukraine, any more than it's mission is securing the US/Mexico border.
    2. We aren't in alignment with major allies. France, Germany and even Ukraine have made it clear that Biden is not being helpful
    That's a lot conjecture, that's not evidence, in response to the request for evidence. When evidence is requested, it's very important at the end of the response provided to carefully check the response and determine if it included any actual evidence. To simplify:
    • Evidence was requested, none was provided.
    The rest is fluff.

    Also, I'm recovering from COVID, and comparing my experience with some of my friends who are going through it unvaxxed, I really appreciate the way you kept addressing my arguments with information.
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    What better way to tick them off than to start to publicly accuse them something they are not doing, and then not having the evidence to back it up... The US should put up or shutup.
     
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    WHEN THEY’RE NOT ACTUALLY LYING THEY’RE USUALLY JUST WRONG: Why everyone should ‘doubt the information’ from Joe Biden’s government.
    "Nothing builds trust like keeping secrets until the turn of the next century."

    Biden has the level of trust he deserves.
     
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    HurricaneDitka Well-Known Member

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    That's exactly what he is.
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    The communist censors are at it again.... I posted the same exchange in post #13 from youtube...they took it down and terminated the account... Go Rumble.... they are now the best site for posting the truth...
    They are swiftly becoming a big competitor with YouTube... Parler is another upcoming site for discussion.

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