How do I convert Jewish friends to Christianity?

Yes, they are. They have not abandoned Jewish faith. Denying Jesus is the messiah is not Jewish faith, it is the current interpretation of the Jewish rabbis.

 

Given my mantra that faith within religious structure (as opposed to just spirituality) comes down to a matter of interpretation, we will have to agree to disagree.

 

That's fine. I believe there is a difference between personal faith and organized religion.

 

A better question is how do I get Christians to become Jewish?

 

The post I believe was satire.

 

The logic behind is,

if salvation doesn't matter, then which religion one chooses doesn't matter. As a result, the Jews made their God a dummy to humans. They have to accept that their God is a dummy God that it doesn't matter if one worships Him or not.

If on the other hand, salvation matters then let them count who are saved? Only the Jews but not gentiles? If so then, again, their God is a God for Jews only and no one else has a chance to be redeemed. As by statistics, in the history of past 2000 years, no gentiles are converted to Jews to be saved. In this case, they still made their God a dummy God for humans. That is, their God has nothing to do with humans as a whole.

What left now is, if God is human facing and would like to save mankind as a whole, then who are saved besides the Jews? Of course, those who believed Jesus in the past 2000 years, there is an abundance of them, both Jews and gentiles.

Christianity is the only mankind facing religion with an explicit command (from their God) and mission to spread the message to all the nations on earth, while other religions are local either in the middle east or in India. Some other religions don't even have enough human followers to be called a god.

The Jews are logical persons, they should understand the line of reasoning.

 

A better question is, how do we get everyone to respect each other’s beliefs? How do we get people to stop imposing their religion on other people?

 

Friends don't convert friends to their cult of choice. That's disrespectful.

 

There is a difference between trying to impose a religion and spreading the word about it. Sadly, too many people assume the later is the former. On the other side of the coin, too many Christians assume they are doing the later when they are actually doing the former.

 

Most people it seems have the screwed up idea that if their religion is good for them its universally good and should be practiced by the whole world! Live and let live 'My Way'!

Thats why I disagree with the guv, that to be a religion it must be a communal affair, not so, its the same as freedom and rights, although freedom and rights are allegedly for we the people as a group it has to be seen both jointly and severally because communal is comprised of individuals. But then the guv has the mob mentality.

 

Like when the guv tried to impose with nearly a 1/4 mill fine on the kliens because they refused to bake a gay wedding cake? How about the mormons when the guv imposed their bigamy religion on them? A religion is created every time laws are created to suppress your religion with theirs with regard to religious matters. The US has no religious courts, only those set up under commerce.

 

Will be difficult to convert the Jew to Christianity.. from birth they are taught to question .. everything .. even God .. and..well - you can't really do that in Christianity .. so tough road the Jew conversion is ..

 

Will be difficult to convert the Jew to Christianity.. from birth they are taught to question .. everything .. even God .. and..well - you can't really do that in Christianity .. so tough road the Jew conversion is ..

 

Perhaps the OP should stop his discriminatory, anti human rights assumptions about Judaism and concentrate more on how to love his neighbour.

 

I love Mexico so much I voted for Trump because the wall benefits us all. I think Canada is cute. I am fine with our neighbors.

 

Do you think that God has forgotten Israel? Where is Gods hand in your life that one may bear witness to, that a Jew may say, oh yes he knows our God, the God of our Patriarchs and Prophets who have beheld his divinity and glory and brought us promise as a birthright. Where is the veracity in your testimony that the Jew named Jesus is their savior. Are they supposed to just accept it like an online diploma or an adorned Christmas tree, and glory in their imaginings. What is real?

 

LOL - I'm contemplating turning ALL of you into pagans.....



Any suggestions?

 

Well, I personally wouldn't need much convincing. I've attended several events with my pagan friends and have had a lot of . . . "spiritual" experiences around the bonfire with their homebrewed mead.

 

I'd probably start with which specific religion you are referring to. Pagan no longer applies to any specific religion any more than heathen does now. I'm partial to Wicca or.maybe something Norse.

 

It's when you can have those experiences with them without the mead that it gets really good.

 

Does the opening post seem like a hoax to anyone?

 

Oh, I'm not particular - there are so many good ones to choose from, like the two you mentioned. Pick whatever suits you!



I'm going with a fusion of the religion of the Ancient Celts and that of the earliest settlers in Hellas that Fustel de Coulanges wrote about in The Ancient City.

But no human sacrifice, please!

 

You don’t , leave them alone . People would be better off if you didn’t try converting everyone to believe as yourself and just let folks make up their own minds .

 

Imagine if Paul and the Apostles had said that. Imagine.

 

There are couple of points I could make but I'll just start with this one, then see if I wish to add anymore later. The point? It is axiomatic that no-one can claim a 'right' for themselves without automatically conceding that exact same right to others. You wish to convert your Judaic friend to Christianity? Fine, he has exactly the same right to try and convert you or anyone else he knows to Judaism.