Tobias Ellwood: The UK should support a no-fly zone over Ukraine

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  1. TheAngryLiberal

    TheAngryLiberal Banned

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    So! if Britain should get involved enforcing a No Fly zone, prepared for this Ukrainian War to get a whole lot worse than it already is. Can you imagine if UK F35's and Russian SU27's 's start shooting down each others planes. This Tobias Ellwood guy says the level of atrocities will get so bad in the Ukraine, that eventually they're going to have to step in. I wonder what level Defcon our Nukes are at right now, because of this.
    https://www.newstatesman.com/world/...he-uk-must-support-a-no-fly-zone-over-ukraine
     
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    Russia just threatened Finland and Sweden with war if they attempt to join NATO. WW3 is pretty much inevitable. Even the Chinese are getting nervous now. They added a few sanctions of their own because they know there wont be a world left for them to dominate if Russia keeps going at this rate.
     
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    We need to push back against Russia without starting a global thermonuclear war. Direct attacks place us perilously close to that.

    At this point there are no good options. If we could have credibly threatened a military response prior to the invasion of Ukraine this likely would never have happened.
     
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    Trouble is, Putin has already lied. First about the intent of the troops, and then about the limited role in The Donbass. So, even though it begs belief that he would be stupid enough to start committing mass atrocities in the Ukraine or invade other countries, there's no assurance that he won't.
     
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    Not a chance.
     
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    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No assurance, but I still think he's angling at Eastern Ukraine. Any good negotiator knows you ask for more than what you want then negotiate back to what you actually want.

    Maybe I'm wrong, it's too soon to tell.
     
  7. Vote4Future

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    Send a covert strike team to assassinate Putin. Everybody wins! The Russian people would thank whomever might have the guts to do that.
     
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    Huh? Lolwut?

    Maybe sometime between the Year 2300 A.D. and the Turn of the Next Millennium?
     
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    At this point I think taking him out is a great plan.
     
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    THA
    THAT could trigger WW III.
     
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    A no fly zone would be a de facto declaration of war against Russia. Are we sure we want to do that?
     
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    Unfortunately that is a risk. The world got blown to ****, back in WW2, but the reason were not speaking German here is because brave men in the United States were willing to risk it all for freedom. I'm not sure the current generation of Americans has the stomach for what it would take to stand up to Tyranny and having a leader like Biden that has done more to divide the United States isn't going to help. Back in WW2 we had Germany and Japan as enemies, today we have Russia and China and they both have Nukes. So sad it's come to this, but in Nov of 2020 America voted in WEAKNESS when it was always looked upon as a strong nation willing to stand up to the bad guys and now the World is going to pay for it. Putin and Xi see American Leaders and Soldiers like this below and laugh. When Democrats are soft on crime in American cities, Crime goes through the roof, When Democrats are soft on American Military, War goes through the roof. Shouldn't surprise anybody this is happening.
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    Yes, may the UK have fun with that. Better idea, get the weapons the brave Ukrainians need to fight for their homeland and their brethern.

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    No news here! Putin has been a liar all his life! That's why Trump was such an asset "Takes one to know one" ByDumb and from the looks of your post it's a
     
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    You're blaming Biden for the divide in America and in the same breath posting anti-American propaganda? It's okay to disagree with policies but condoning and sharing propagandic pictures that portray mental instability and induce further hate is why America is divided. You're ******** where we all sleep and complaining about the smell.
     
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    Took another big step closer to it today. Still think its impossible?

    I recall you in an older thread about Gen Miley committing high-treason when he took steps to remove Trumps access to nuclear launch options and you thought it was entirely justified. You thought Trump would use nukes against 'something' but here with this genocidal sadistic mad-man Putin you're confident he wont? Care to explain this one?
     
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    I saw a video on TV this morning showing missile attacks on downtown Karkiev. It was not targeted. It took out about 4 blocks and killed more than 100 people. That is a war crime, by the way.
     
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    Partisanship, obviously. He can't see clearly through it.
     
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