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Who's Providing the REAL Sanctions and Weapons to Ukraine??????????

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Condor060, Mar 3, 2022.

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  1. Cybred

    Cybred Well-Known Member

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    Given that Putin has been assembling his forces for a few years, how does that make Biden culpable and not trump?
     
    Cybred, Mar 3, 2022
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  2. Condor060

    Condor060 Banned Donor

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    Oh, now he was assembling his forces? How do you even come up with such?
    Its the Russian army. Not a bunch of contractors?
    If you want to play dumb about it help yourself. Why should I care how you present yourself.
    Assembling his forces. :roflol:
     
    Condor060, Mar 3, 2022
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  3. Cybred

    Cybred Well-Known Member

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    Uh yep you want to engage in a military action you don't do it with a snap of your fingers.
     
    Cybred, Mar 3, 2022
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    They probably used twitter... had to create accounts... get everyone "friended"... the usual.
     
    popscott, Mar 3, 2022
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    Wow... Pootin put together his military just in the last few years.... I believe the "80s called and want their foreign policy back" has went to your head...
     
    popscott, Mar 3, 2022
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    now that sounds truly lethal
     
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  7. Condor060

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    So you thought there was no Russian army, so Putin had to assemble his forces over the last 2 years?
    Your responses get more and more ridiculous proving you will claim anything to blame Trump for anything.
    Assembling his forces. Thats a new one on everyone on the planet. lol OMG
     
    Condor060, Mar 3, 2022
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  8. Cybred

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    Sorry but this is real life not a video game.
     
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    Putin is a grownup watching our childish leaders playing kiddie games... this is not a game to him... you should not tell anyone about "real life".... You elected a dementia ridden old man who does not know what planet he is on.... and the left and Democrat's go about like nothing is the matter with Joe... when Americans and the grownups in the world, Pootin, Xi, etc... ain't playing the game with us and can see exactly what is going on.
     
    popscott, Mar 3, 2022
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    Ho hum.
     
    Cybred, Mar 3, 2022
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    Facts are facts....

    Answer the question honestly.... Do you think there is something wrong with Joe and he is capable of running our country?
     
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    You don't follow the news... do you?

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/01/19/us-allies-ukraine-weapons-russia-invasion-527375
    https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...ates-send-us-made-weapons-ukraine-2022-01-20/
    https://thehill.com/policy/internat...ch-of-weapons-from-us-and-this-is-not-the-end
    https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/08/politics/us-ukraine-security-assistance-military-training/index.html

    Also, what had to be authorized by congress


    https://www.defensenews.com/pentagon/2022/02/26/biden-to-send-350m-in-military-aid-to-ukraine/
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-ru...s-russian-forces-escalate-attacks-11646160746
     
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    Those are new approvals after Ukraine was attacked. My OP is pre invasion when we should have been stepping up.
    Now we decide to send weapons to Ukraine after they are in the middle of a war?
    Everyone else made sure Ukraine was loaded before Putins attack. Not a week after, when the approvals just happened, and they won't see any of it for a few weeks. Too little too late
     
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    They're form before the invasion, the ones authorized by congress are from after the invasion. Keep up


    BEFORE the invasion
    AFTER the invasion
     
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    You mean like this
    White House freezes Ukraine military package that includes lethal weapons
    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/18/white-house-ukraine-military-lethal-weapons-495169

    Then this
    Biden Administration Debates Legality of Arming Ukrainian Resistance
    https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/02/24/biden-legal-ukraine-russia-resistance/

    Maybe you should be watching the news or calling Biden to let him know what you found out.
     
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    Condor060 Banned Donor

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    Then stop living in pretend land where your standing army has to be assembled two years before you strike.
     
    Condor060, Mar 3, 2022
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    That sort of cruelty could turn the world against us.
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, Mar 3, 2022
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  18. TCassa89

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    Literally the first words of your first linked article "The Biden White House has temporarily halted a military aid package to Ukraine"



    Once again...




    BEFORE the invasion
    AFTER the invasion

    This isn't really something that is theoretical or up for debate. We were sending lethal arms to Ukraine before the invasion. That is a fact
     
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    Condor060 Banned Donor

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    Those are European nations sending arms, not the US.
    The US wanted them to seek approval before transferring their weapons.
    Read your own links
     
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    I think going after the oligarchs is the best idea. The Oligarchs are important to Putin or Putin wouldn't have them and they might be the ones to bring him down.
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, Mar 3, 2022
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    No
    Yes
     
    Cybred, Mar 3, 2022
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    No, the first two links are US manufactured weapons being sent by European countries, the next two links are weapons directly coming from the US government. Then of course congress authorized increased aid after the invasion

    Keep up
     
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    Cybred, Mar 3, 2022
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    Well, you're the one that when Putin invades Ukraine, it's somehow Biden's fault and not Putin's.
     
    Cybred, Mar 3, 2022
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    There has been 100,000 Russian troops on that border since 2014 - pre invasion! Obama put sanctions on Russia for the invasion of Crimea, Trump did his best to have these sanctions removed, all the time 100,000 Russian troops on that border
     
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