Biden's Genius Strategy Using Sanctions

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  1. stratego

    stratego Well-Known Member

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    Biden shut down oil production in the US and then banned Russian oil. To solve the problem with oil shortage he's lifting sanctions on Venezuela and begging them and Saudi Arabia to give us oil.

    Russia will now turn to China thereby making them economically and militarily stronger when they attack Taiwan. To counter China, Biden will lift sanctions on Russia and beg them to help contain China.

    European Union will see that Biden has lifted sanctions on Russia and start trading heavily with Russia again. That would be a violation so Biden would sanction the EU for non-compliance.

    But the EU is our ally so the United States is hurting our ally by sanctioning them. This means that as retaliation Biden would sanction the US for hurting our. He would also need to lift sanctions on the EU to help them.

    But the US now has sanctions on the US and that's unacceptable so Biden will sanction the US for sanctioning the US.
     
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    YOU ARE DEAD WRONG!!! The low prices for crude oil shut down fracking in the USA, as the frackers were not earning enough to make their loan payments !! Biden had absolutely nothing to do with it because it occurred under Dirty Donald
     
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    Just eat cake or rather buy a tesla. lol
     
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  4. Sirius Black

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    Biden did not shut down oil production. As a matter of fact oil prodiction the first year under Biden was about the same as the four years from 2017 to 2020.

    2017 - 9357 thousand barrels per day average

    2018 - 10941 thousand barrels per day average

    2019 - 12289 thousand barrels per day average

    2020 - 11283 thousand barrels per day average

    2021 - 11185 thousand barrels per day average


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    This is really the most damaging criticism Biden is facing at the moment, and should be where his opponents land when they get done playing neophyte armchair statesmen. There is no pressing reason to not be full steam ahead on domestic oil and gas production in the current situation.
     
  6. Mike12

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    Biden apologists are hailing his sanctions and calling it strong actions. Seriously? Sanctions? This is like the bare minimum US can do. This is how soft democrats have become, they think what biden has done is tough.

    See how President Kennedy handled the cuban missile crisis. Yeah, he took risks but you have to call each other’s bluff or else sit and watch your enemies suck you dry. If biden would’ve been in charge back in 1962, he would’ve sanctioned USSR and allowed nuclear warheads to be deployed in cuba.

    strength is about deterring enemy incursions (not inviting them) and taking forceful actions, taking some risks not just playing safe.

    what a bar we have set with biden, his weakness has emboldened enemies, making world more dangerous and merely putting sanctions on enemies is the new measure of strength.

    Kennedy put in place a naval blockage on cuba and warned russia of a nuclear retaliatory response. This guy was no-one to mess with if you were in USSR.

    ‘It shall be the policy of this nation to regard any attack from cuba as a direct attack by soviet union requiring a full retaliatory response’

     
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    You want that no fly zone?
     
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    President Biden did NOT "shut down oil production in the US", and we've never imported enough oil from Russia to make a price difference at our gas pumps.
     
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    By chance have you compared oil prices now versus when Trump left office?

    President are not only not supposed to cause bad things to happen, they are supposed to stop bad things from happening. Biden is doing a terrible job of preventing bad things from happening.
     
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    Umm..... sweetie,.... your tds is showing..... Oh, and of course Biden wasn't the former vice president.... Prey tell us, how was it then that US production peaked again, and who was president? Certainly not Xoe.
     
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    Thank you Jen. Always nice to see unvarnished vitriol in its purest forms..
     
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    Ya'll know that Trump supporters are just going to ignore these facts right:)??
     
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    it’s a little late now, weakness has led to this and much difficult to defend a position of weakness.

    Earlier leaders, like kennedy, would’ve threatened putin before he invaded. Promised to defend ukraine and warn of nuclear retaliatory response. 99% putin wouldn’t have gone there…

    Just hear kennedy’s speech above.. he basically threatened ussr with nuclear annihilation and that he would not cave in to threats. Some think he took risks but it’s a game of calling bluffs. Would’ve Putin really risked nuclear annihilation for ukraine?

    now we sit and watch murder and all putin has to do is warn of using his nukes.. and he can do as he pleases
     
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  14. stratego

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    Difference between 12289 thousand barrels per day and 11185 thousand barrels per day is over 400 million barrels per year.
     
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    The government of the USA does not control who fracks and who doesn't, we are a CAPITALIST COUNTRY where private business makes it's own financial decisions.
     
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    There is also a great difference between 11185 barrels and 9357 barrels.

    You missed the point. You claim he shutdown oil production in the us. I stated that he had not. Facts support what I said. They do not seem to support your initial statement.
     
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    And who was POTUS in 2020? And what was the difference then? Please don't cherry pick stats and ignore that COVID shutdowns lowered local and world demand which picked back up in the spring of 2021 causing a supply shortage.
     
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    How is it a little late the fight is still on, and the air war is really the only thing working for Russia at the moment. I'm leaning towards it myself.
     
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    Actually, US oil production is up

    We're currently on pace to hit 12.6 million a day by next year
     
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    First of all a wild card is only as good as the strongest play. We were never going to Nuke Russia for invading a non NATO member. This was always going to happen. No one folds a full house, and that is what putin was holding when he made his play for Ukraine.

    Second, according to Putin apologists, he apparently had every right to "liberate" Ukraine from themselves. Apparently mass killings were being orchestrated by their government anyway, so the body count excuse is a mute one.
    The only loser right now is Russia, by all accounts so far Biden made the correct play.
    Putin is just not as smart as you give him credit for. End of story.

    The myth that Putin would never have done this is based on pure circumstance that Trump didn't make it to his second term. Cause if he did then he would be dealing with this mess in a very Trumpian fashion. That is something that would start world war 3. Straight bombing Russia for holding "training exercises".
     
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    True, he merely reduced oil production. Or, if you prefer a more complete answer, oil companies reduced production because of a toxic environment for oil companies caused by the administration.
     
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    Do you have an example of what created the toxic environment?
     
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    stopping the pipeline, failing to approve things required for taking advantage of existing oil leases, banning all additional exploration on public lands, a general war against oil. The oil companies won't take risks in this kind of environment. So go buddy up to Venezuela and Iran.
     
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    By not approving the pipeline oil American companies should thank President Biden because the pipeline, which would not be even close to completion, would not carry American oil, but Canadian oil so I fail to see how this was an issue to American oil companies.
    He did nothing to stop "existing oil leases", but he did put a hold (not perminant) on new oil leases.
    He did put a hold (not perminant) on new exploration on federal property.
    We are essentially producing a similar amount of oil that has been produced over the last 5 years.
    The highest oil company profits in the last 5 years were 175000 millions of dollars in 2018. The second highest was 174000 millions in 2021.
     
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