Exclusive: Washington pins easing of Venezuela sanctions on direct oil supply to U.S. - sources

Still wondering what Venezuela is making of this sudden shift in policy towards them. You have to assume they understand once the smoke clears we will just stab them in the back and ban their oil again, so risky commitment on their part.

 

sounds good to me, unless you want high gas prices

the only way to get American oil companies to lower prices is to import more cheap foreign oil

 

No I think we should expend all options to limit the economical pain of high energy prices. My question was, as Venezuela has technically not agreed, is it to Venezuela's benefit. You know we will drive a sabre up their back when the smoke clears and everything is back to status-quo right? Venezuela will have to consider that reality in these negotiations. Same for Iran or any other entity we have been hostile to up to this point.

Also, what do you think Venezuela thinks of the sudden shift in policy, you know we were trying to destroy their economy and supporting a regime change a year ago, now we are trying to be buddy?

 

they will agree, but yes, if they screw around with the next election, sanctions back on in full

 

They have not agreed yet, better wait and negotiate a better offer if they do. For them its like dealing with the devil in a sense, they might want some incentive before they agree.

 

I think they will agree, this is huge for their economy

 

Not really. I think it’s a smart geopolitical move to try to bring Venezuela back to our side. Maduro is no Fidel and he will be a compliant American ally if it improves his economy and standing with the people, and most importantly, the Venezuelan people will benefit.
If the dems stay in power, they won’t throw Venezuela under the bus, but the repubs are stupid enough to resume their petty grudges if they get back in power.
It’s transparently hypocritical to slap sanctions on a weak country like Venezuela for petty ideological reasons while not doing the same to powerful countries like China.

 

And now Team Joe is going to suck up to autocrats and prop up dictatorships as they go begging for oil.

It's kinda contradictory, isn't it?

Clamping down sanctions on Russia to punish the evil tyrant, while lifting sanctions on Venezuela and Iran, which are both run by their own evil tyrants.

Let's pretend like we're all about spreading democracy as we engage in this hypocritical folly. That'll be fun.

 

1) Maduro is no Fidel, as Maduro is Maduro, but just remember before you say he will be compliant - we have literally tried to overthrow him which had a good chance of resulting in loss of life or life imprisonment in the least.

2) Venezuela understands US political standings. At most a political party has 8 years before the other party gets control, in this case, good chance repub's take the next election. Its always going to go Dem, Rep, Dem, Rep. If it goes rep in what amounts to two years from now its a bad deal from your analysis.

3) Its is transparently hypocritical to slap sanctions on Venezuela and not China, but we have literally been doing that in an attempt to overthrow their government for years. Just something I wonder if the Venezuelans consider before they take the first deal to ease sanctions by the US. Good chance once the smoke clears we stab them in the back for their help.

 

I read "U.S. officials have demanded Venezuela supply at least a portion of oil exports to the United States"
I dunno about you, but when I go to the store to buy something, that's where I also make a demand that I'm only willing to buy some products in exchange for something else. No less, no more.


The article is rather bombastic, making it seem the US is being tough on it.
But we all know that it's only due to high oil prices and cutting out Russia from the oil market that the US is going with it's tail between it's legs to Venezuela.

 

The US has no problem with the tyrants in most of the middle east.
Putin always was a tyrant in Russia, and that too was not a problem.
They just got a problem with Iran, thinking they will nuke the Jews.
They just got a problem with Venezuela, because it's a far left government and want a different one.

It's not on par with Russia invading a peaceful nation.

 

Which sovereign territories have the Venezuelan armies marched into of late. did they march into Colombia, Brazil, or Guyana?

 

Liberals whined about Trump's dealing with Russia and Putin and now Biden gets in bed with the devil. Thanks 81M voters. You know how to pick from the bottom of the barrel.

And how much is Hunter getting from this deal?

 

Venezuelan oil was never banned in US, we just haven't bough much from there.

Right. Besides, Venezuela might turn around politically if we use the carrot rather than the stick now that they have driven their economy to the ground.

 

Venezuela is hardly the devil. We were already buying oil from Russia pre-invasion meaning we had no problems buying oil from tyrants, so the pearl clutching makes no sense here madame.

 

Show me how much we have imported since 2019 from Venezuela, its sanctioned heavily thus the need for talks. If US refiners could buy Venezuelan oil freely the needs for talks on the matter would be moot.

 

The Leftists in the Democratic Party are cozying on up to the Socialists in Venezuela.

And why? Because they really need that extra oil right now to help lower fuel prices to make inflation not look as bad.
Can't have voters thinking things are bad when there's a Democrat in the White House.

It was only a short time ago that Venezuela was viewed as almost an enemy of the US and there were all sorts of sanctions against them. How very Orwellian. Now the US is quickly changing alliances. And the old memories of what happened in Venezuela just 5 years ago are going to dissappear down the memory hole.

 

Here's some past threads that weren't that long ago:
Venezuela judge convicts 6 American oil executives
China breaking US sanctions by buying oil from Venezuela
Massive protests in Venezuela

 

Is your Google broken or you just don't know how to use it? In 2019 we did import oil from there, - about as much as we did from UK, Holland, India and Norway.

Why resort to lame partisan nonsense, especially when it can easily be thrown back by claiming your messiah cozied up with commie tyrants in Russia? You KNOW the issue is not about "cozying up" with anyone. Or does the current situation need to be explained to you?

How do you figure its Orwellian?

 

It appears that the Venezuelan government want all sanctions off plus the USA to return all the gold the US government has confiscated (basically stolen) to Venezuela.

Mr. Maduro, gimme some oil

The US administration of President Joe Biden is now absolutely desperate: today it banned all imports of oil and gas from Russia, which happens to be the second-largest exporter of oil to the US, behind Canada and ahead of Mexico. The US’ big Russian-energy ‘replacement strategy’ is to beg for oil from Iran and Venezuela.

So, the White House sent a delegation to talk to Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro, led by Juan Gonzalez, the White House’s top Latin America adviser. The US offer is to “alleviate” sanctions on Caracas in exchange for oil.

The United States government has spent years – if not decades – burning all bridges with Venezuela and Iran. The USG destroyed Iraq and Libya, and isolated Venezuela and Iran, in its attempt to take over global oil markets – just to end up miserably trying to buy out both and escape from being crushed by the economic forces it has unleashed. That proves, once again, that imperial ‘policy makers’ are utterly clueless.

Caracas will request the elimination of all sanctions on Venezuela and the return of all its confiscated gold. And it seems like none of this was cleared with ‘President’ Juan Guaido, who since 2019, was the only Venezuelan leader “recognized” by Washington.

Pepe Escobar
@RealPepeEscobar
Eurasia-wide nomad geopolitical analyst
asiatimes.com

 

Just do an internet search on human rights violations in Venezuela. You will find they are far worse than Russia. If not, just keep that head in the sand and follow Biden to the path of failure blindly.

 

SINCE 2019, its zero. Sanctions are in the form that the oil is not banned, but its basically banned. How much in 2020, 2021, 2022?

Again, this is literally why we have to have the talks, if the oil is not banned and can freely be purchased by American refiners and blenders then the reason for the talks would be moot.

 

Are you against buying from VZ, or are you complaining just for the sake of complaining

 

Nope, you said the oil is not banned we just dont buy much. We dont buy much because it is for all purposes banned, in fact we have not bought any since the start of 2019 and the last round of sanctions. The purpose of the talks is to lift sanctions and allow Venezuela to be paid for the oil they export to us.

 

I don't follow Biden. And if human rights violations were a game-breaker, where would we even be buying our oil from? All you're doing is the same thing that's already being done. Picking and choosing which bad guys you're okay with doing business with. Nobody said Venezuela is a sainted country. It's just that now, an even bigger tyrant has emerged. If you're concerned about human rights abuses, you're not going to find a larger concentration of them than a warzone. Venezuela is not our primary concern right now.