Why Have Conservatives Not Stopped The Liberal Revolution That Threatens Their Culture?

Is a question asked by Patrick J. Buchanan in his classic work The Death Of The West.

Says Buchanan:

One reason is "The Liberals have captured the institutions where the young
spend most of their waking hours -- MTV and primetime, movies and
magazines, schools and colleges -- the Liberal Revolution is able to shape
the values, beliefs, and attitudes of the young. Artists, actors, playwrights,
song writers, and popular singers are almost all on the other side.

(As for the Conservatives. . . )

Op-ed page commentators and radio hosts (eg Mark Levine) cannot match
this cultural firepower. The arsenals are unequal. Moreover, the entertainment
that the (Liberal) cultural revolution has to offer is far more attractive and
alluring, thus many of the children of traditionalists defect."
__Patrick J. Buchanan, The Death Of The West, pages 201-211



The Death Of The West is an oldie goldie but well worth
reading or re-reading. Its a magnificent conservative
work.
Thoughts?

JAG

 

I think Buchanan is a bonafide prehistoric ass.

 

Liberals control schools in the US no doubt and our young skulls full of mush are victimized by them. It takes living outside of their parents' protective cocoon on their own before they realize life isn't a bouquet of roses.

 

Yes, liberals have found schools, media, and others as great institutions to indocternate and push their platform.

This works, in part. However, once people work hard, educate themselves, gain experience, and start to earn more money they naturally shift to more conservative ideologies.

It's not difficult to be very liberal with other people's money and idealistic when young. It's more difficult to retain those failed policies once people get older, wiser, and self sustained.

The overwhelming majority of elder progressives fall into one of two groups:

1. Those that have not gain self sustainability

2. Those who victimize those that haven't for power and control.

 

We have all become embroiled in a culture war. The mistake that Buchanan makes is that both sides are trying to change the culture to something it never was.

 

An astute observation.

JAG

 

Taking a 300K student loan is not exactly other peoples money since everyone knows it has to be paid off with interest.

 

Interesting points.

My view:

However ain't nothing gonna change in America until the army of the American Electorate
is Spartanized through severe sustained suffering and is taught though SUSTAINED PAIN
to elect Conservatives as their policy makers.

NO GAIN WITHOUT PAIN.

How about sustained severe ECONOMIC PAIN.

JAG


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"We have accepted today the existence in perpetuity of a permanent
underclass of scores of millions who cannot cope and must be carried
by society — fed, clothed, housed, tutored, medicated at taxpayer’s
expense their entire lives. We have a dependent nation the size of
Spain in our independent America. We have a new division in our
country, those who pay a double or triple fare, and those who ride
forever free."__Pat Buchanan

— Suicide of a Superpower


JAG

 

Dear Pat: Most "conservatives" are liberals.

“After a while, the distinctions between the clans all run together– the journalists, the Democrats, the Republicans, the superlawyers, the superlobbyists, the superstaffers, the supercommittees, the David Gergen's, the Donna Brazile's … they run together like the black tie dinner, or the caricature drawings of notable Washingtonians on the wall at the Palm on Nineteenth Street.”
Mark Leibovich, This Town, Penguin Books, 2013, p. 14.

AKA crooks.

 

my view : inflicting sustained economic pain through conservative economic policy makes humans more cooperative and less Conservative.

people become more (small c) conservative when they have a stake (home, stable family, good job) in their society and a voice in its policiess.

 

While Moi has long criticized the Republican
establishment and Bay Area Dynasty
the Lincoln Club remains ignored while "sitting"
on many Republican voters, ignored.

The Republican Party abandoned its' consideration
of California yet the interior votes otherwise.
Ref.: Kevin McCarthy


Moi

STOP ization of
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And how is this any different than Reagan's Welfare Queen myth he promulgated?

Republicans always need to create these amorphous faceless moochers and freeloaders to attract attention but offer no real solutions to the disabled, infirmed, homeless, and the circumstances that create poverty in the first place. They operate from the belief that poverty is a personal moral failing, but what would you expect from those who embrace a bankrupt belief system?

 

I dont know if they are liberals, but its true that very few people who call themselves conservative are actually conservative.

 

In other words he’s a great American!

 

I think more in reality, it's not just that people change into conservatives. The contemporary version of conservative and liberal shifts too. For example, I'm what I call a 2005 liberal. After that, the Democratic party started getting more and more progressive, which wasn't necessarily bad at first, but because of the increasing number of progressive members nowadays it is morphing into something that I am not. I still have the same principles for the most part that I did 20 years ago. But they are less parallel to the Democratic platform now.

But as sad as this is despite the progressive wing of the party of the Democratic party, because of Trumpism(not just the man, but the meta) I am still closer to the Democrats than the Republican party.

But in truth, my principles tend to be a blend of both parties.

 

I think he has a record of being more right on public policy issues over time than almost any other public person. That doesn't mean he isn't a prehistoric ass, but he's one that was right on the big issues.

 

Liberalism is always more appealing to young people.
Once folks get into the real world some of them get smart and realize that communism isn’t a great idea

 

I'm not sure what that has to do with my point.

 

These authoritarians that call themselves "liberals" are liars, they are opposite of liberal.
What Conservatives are conserving is our Constitutional Liberal Democracy.

I think the topic question is more accurately rendered: "Why hasn't the GOP stopped the Left's constant attack on our culture?"

Part of that I think stems from the fact that until it came to fruition and it was clearly exposed as all lies, there was a tendency for the GOP to go along with some of it based on it's excellent packaging. Here's an example, though you could take other things like "Just call the Trans women, "women" so you don't hurt their feelings". Well, we don't want to needlessly hurt anyone's feelings, so many of us went along with it. Next thing you know, women in prison are caged with male felons and being raped daily and beaten if they resisted being objects of their sexual gratification.

14 year old school girls are being raped and sodomized in school, with the school covering it up, so that they can continue letting violent men enter the girls bathroom.

In the UFC a powerful man pretends he is a "woman" and beats an actual woman, bloody, on television, before a paying live crowd of 60,000.

Women's athletics are destroyed as men claim to be women and sweep the records, scholarships, and medals, and now soon, the Olympic berths.

While many Constitutionalists warned that this is where this was going to lead, the Lying Left denied it, until it became undeniable, and now it will be stopped.

Here's another example:
"Criminal Tourists" Target Wealthy American Neighborhoods


The confluence of another set of dangerous Leftwing policies:

The high points from the link:

• South American criminal tourists are on home invasion sprees targeting wealthy neighborhoods across the US.
• South American thieves exploit the US' immigration system for travel as they target multi-million dollar homes in liberal Left-controlled areas with relaxed criminal justice laws.
• These professional burglars exploit a 2014 visa waiver program intended to promote tourism. Called the Electronic System for Travel Authorization, it's an automated system that determines the eligibility of visitors to travel without obtaining a visa.
• The FBI busted one of these gangs in Virginia who stole an estimated $2 million worth of goods from mansions owned by Asian and Middle Eastern families targeted because they had lots of high-value jewelry and cash.
• The thieves chose Virginia because of the state's lax bail laws and could skip bail and exit the country with the loot.

Here they are emptying the house of valuables
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That’s finally beginning to happen. Virginia was a great 1st of many steps in that direction.

 

~ Patrick Buchanan makes very good sense. However he underemphasized the rotting culture of the Capitol Hill gang of elites — both Democrats and Republicans .

 

A question, if I may.

When a working or poverty class person wins a lottery (enough, if invested, to support several people for life), blows the lot within a few years and ends up back where they started, what do you call that? Is that a personal moral failing, or do you blame the system?

Well a failure to BUILD on opportunities like free education, cheap or subsidised rent in homes big enough to house two families and thus save for the future, free medical etc etc, is exactly the same thing as failure to build on a lottery win.

 

The young, the disabled, and the aged, are and should always be, supported. None of this is about them.

What circumstances? The same stuff is happening in all Western nations, so it can't be anything specific to America.

 

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