The Case for Impeaching Clarence Thomas

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  1. precision

    precision Well-Known Member

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    Wrong! He never retracted. If he had indeed grown, he would have retracted every last racist word.

    Not only that, but please tell us, what exactly was exemplary about those words?
     
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    Visit any of our urban hell holes and you will see black Americans suffering under the systemic institutional racism that is always the hallmark of DP government.

    For instance Baltimore when they still though it could not get any worse:

     
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    I don't dispute the racism that exists in the Democratic party, what I dispute is the notion that the Republican party is not just as racist.
     
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    Even Dubois, a Communist historian, and critic of Lincoln admits the intellectual and moral growth of both Lincoln and the RP.

    “But on the other hand, the thesis which Beale tends to support that the whole North during and after the war was chiefly interested in making money, is only half true; it was abolition and belief in democracy that gained for a time the upper hand after the war and led the North in Reconstruction; business followed abolition in order to maintain the tariff, pay the bonds and defend the banks. To call this business program "the program of the North" and ignore abolition is unhistorical. In growing ascendancy for a calculable time was a great moral movement which turned the North from its economic defense of slavery and led it to Emancipation. Abolitionists attacked slavery because it was wrong and their moral battle cannot be truthfully minimized or forgotten. Nor does this fact deny that the majority of Northerners before the war were not abolitionists, that they attacked slavery only in order to win the war and enfranchised the Negro to secure this result.

    One has but to read the debates in Congress and state papers from Abraham Lincoln down to know that the decisive action which ended the Civil War was the emancipation and arming of the black slave; that, as Lincoln said: "Without the military help of black freedmen, the war against the South could not have been won."
    BLACK RECONSTRUCTION IN AMERICA 1860- 1880, W.E.B. Dubois, introduction by David Levering Lewis, XVII THE PROPAGANDA OF HISTORY, the Free Press new York 1998.P. 716.

    Dubois also documents the devolution of the DP which accelerated with the racial political theory introduced by Calhoun and his ilk that set the stage for Civil War.
     
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    So Lincoln using black people as cannon fodder in the Civil War demonstrates the moral growth of a person who explicitly stated that blacks and whites should not intermarry?
     
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    I can understand why a Democrat would want to believe that, but even Malcolm X admits that it is not really true.

    “Both of them have sold us out, both parties have sold us out. Both parties are racist, and the Democratic Party is more racist than the Republican Party.” Malcom X, By Any Means Necessary, Malcom X, Betty Shabazz and Pathfinder Press, 1992, P 46.

    Of course that is thin gruel for the Republican Party, but it is the truth.
     
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    Of course Lincoln grew on the race issue, his second inaugural address is proof of that. What the hell do you think "growing" means anyway? It certainly doesn't mean retracting every single word.
     
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    The failure to recuse repeatedly is improper enough to warrant review or impeachment in any other Federal court. You have no idea how seriously the Feds take this ****. Personally, I find it excessive, at times, but that's the way they are.
     
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    It most certainly means retracting words that were racist to that extreme.
     
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    Think it through.

    1. Politicians who arm black Americans to defend themselves against their enemies are real allies of black Americans.
    2. Politicians of any party or shade who disarm black Americans are the enemies of black Americans.
     
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    First of all I am not a Democrat, nor am I a Republican, but everything that Malcolm X believed is not necessarily true. So if you want to put forward that just because Malcolm X said the Democratic Party is the more racist, that makes the statement true, your reasoning is flawed.
     
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    I agree, but Lincoln did grow on the race issue, he just didn't live long enough to continue growing.
     
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    Politicians who claim to be advocates of gun rights, while at the same time catering to white racists are not allies of black Americans. The Republican party caters to white racists. They are not allies of black Americans.

    Think that through.
     
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    Perhaps. Kind of hard to argue against that. That said, all we have to go by is what he said and did, not what he might have done had he lived.
     
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    Of course it's true. It is hard to miss -- if you look.

    "Ironically, George Wallace is an issue in the 2020 election — thanks to presumptive Democratic nominee Joseph Robinette Biden, Jr. While Biden has compared the “racist” President Donald Trump to the infamous segregationist, Uncle Joe actually praised Wallace in 1987. But it gets worse. Biden also said his fellow Delawareans were on the South’s side in the Civil War. Yikes."
    PJ MEDIA, ELECTION 2020, Is This Joe Biden's Blackface Scandal? Strong Echoes of Ralph Northam..., BY TYLER O'NEIL MAY 21, 2020.
    https://pjmedia.com/election/tyler-...e-on-the-souths-side-in-the-civil-war-n416005

    The DP has always been the party of systemic institutional racism in America.
    The RP has always been, until kicked real hard and often, the party of passive indifference.
     
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    That's fiction, in that it had a great deal to do with racism. But it did start before the 1960s, Eleanor had a lot to do with that.
     
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    That's delusional. There is absolutely no evidence that Democrats switched to the GOP for reasons of racism. You've been reading too many Democrat rewritings of history.

     
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    I seldom have anything good to say about the RP. Pointing out the obvious fact that the RP is less racist than the DP is far from praise.

    1. Anyone who works to arm black Americans against their enemies is a real ally.
    For instance: Abraham Lincoln
    2. Anyone from any party or shade who works to disarm black Americans is an enemy of black Americans.
     
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    Trump is still in grade school?

    That explains a lot.
     
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    You always ignore substance.
     
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    I see. ;-)
     
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    Never. When posters here resort to ad hominem personal attacks it is usually because they have no substantive rebuttal.

    The fact that Joe Biden is just another old segregationist Dixiecrat is very well documented.

    "Now the issue of busing — one of the most contentious of Biden’s long career — has resurfaced in a way that could threaten his presidential bid. At Thursday’s Democratic debate, Sen. Kamala D. Harris (Calif.) turned to Biden and accused him of opposing policies that allowed black children like her to attend integrated schools.

    On Friday, a Biden aide noted that the busing program Harris participated in was not court-ordered and said Biden would not have opposed it. A Harris spokesman, Ian Sams, replied, “She wasn’t just speaking for herself. She was speaking on behalf of countless black and brown children who were seeking access to better education through school integration.”
    THE WASHINGTON POST, Joe Biden called busing a ‘liberal train wreck.’ Now his stance on school integration is an issue., By Michael Kranish and Laura Meckler, June 28, 2019.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...7705dc-99b3-11e9-830a-21b9b36b64ad_story.html
     
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    You are wrong.
    The right to due process is not "obsolete".

    (4) Confrontation and Cross-Examination. “In almost every setting where important decisions turn on questions of fact, due process requires an opportunity to confront and cross-examine adverse witnesses.”783 Where the “evidence consists of the testimony of individuals whose memory might be faulty or who, in fact, might be perjurers or persons motivated by malice, vindictiveness, intolerance, prejudice, or jealously,” the individual’s right to show that it is untrue depends on the rights of confrontation and cross-examination. “This Court has been zealous to protect these rights from erosion. It has spoken out not only in criminal cases, . . . but also in all types of cases where administrative . . . actions were under scrutiny.”784
    JUSTIA, US Law, Procedural Due Process Civil
    https://law.justia.com/constitution/us/amendment-14/05-procedural-due-process-civil.html
     

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