Covid revealed our weaknesses

We need to be developing a containment protocol that puts China's to shame. But we're far too stupid to do that.

 

Your concerns aren't concerns of mine.

 

You guys project more than a 100 screen multiplex theater...

 

We had one until Trump threw into the trash.

It wasn't perfect, but it wasn't bad, either.

 

It's dishonest for you to blame him. He went way out of his way to make sure the news media would not be able to blame him for any of this.

All the high population density areas, where disease is most likely to spread, have Democrat governors who could implement whatever "containment policy" they wished.

 

Hardly, at the very beginning, when the head of the pandemic team talked about Covid publicly, she was fired and the pandemic team was disbanded.

The Trump crowd flew a number of people home without quarrantine procedures, and over the objections of the CDC. One of the early breakouts of the disease occurred where they were sent.

He denied or downplayed the disease repeatedly.. "Gone by Spring"

I could keep going like this for another hour, Trump's handling was a disaster than caused hundreds of thousands their lives.

But it's painfully obvious, if you know what you are talking about.

 

How were they confirmed? Were there 80 million autopsies? Perhaps it makes better sense to say that 80 million people died while testing positive for covid.

How does testing reduce the spread of the virus? Why bother to test at all if you don't intend to treat it?

The vaccinations we use today are the same ones we use in the beginning. In the meantime the strain of the virus for which they were designed is long gone and the viruses no longer work well with the current strains. The virus mutates and evolves faster than we can develop new vaccines. Every year we vaccinate millions of people for last year's strain of influenza. It makes one wonder why we do it doesn't it?

Yes we all know that humanity has a hard time dealing with viruses.

Now is the time to understand that covid is endemic with current strains that are less harmful than influenza and treat it like we treat influenza. Somebody engineered a powerful version of a corona virus but, in the end, it behaved like all corona viruses. It's over. Move on.

 

And yet, without vaccination, the virus has become less and less dangerous from evolution, not vaccines. The vaccines we use are obsolete and have been for months.

 

the vaccine helped, I thank the patriotic Americans that got it

the Omicron helped too as it was very contagious and less deadly, which helped vaccinate the rest

 

There you go debating what I didn't say. Yes, the vaccines were quite effective for the original strain and helped reduce hospitalizations for delta. For omicron and later the vaccines are now obsolete. We can now put the vaccines to rest. We now have an endemic virus that isn't very dangerous. Feel free to debate that.

 

the vaccines have been good for all strains so far as they target the spikes

the spikes are the virus's keys into the cells, if they change, the hope is, the key no longer works

 

Covid revealed how well organized the Deep State and Medical Industrial Complex are organized.

 

How do you propose to make a vaccine for a virus you have never encountered before? Our “life” swims in a sea of viruses. If you found a way to kill all viruses in the body, it would probably mortally compromise us.
Going through traditional channels to get a vaccine would take at least two to three years**, and it is not nearly as profitable as new prescriptions drugs. They only way it got done sooner is Trump went “Thug-life” on them and reminded them how important the federal government was to them. Thus, the big players went all-in. We got an imperfect vaccine but saved “x” lives. We will never know the true cost/benefit ratio.

**SARS fizzled out by the time a vaccine was available. We got lucky. We are usually lucky.

 

Quote; “You can knock down those who died from Covid to about 250K. That is closer to the real number of actual Covid deaths”

That’s an example of a MISINFORMATION

I suggest you study Covid and the Flu ICD 10 coding system

Why both? Because people don’t actually die of Covid and the Flu, people actually die of Covid/Flu RELATED ILLNESSES, such as pneumonia.

Questions and Answers;

What is the ICD 10 code for pneumonia WITH influenza; J11.00

What is the ICD 10 code for pneumonia WITH Covid; J12.82

Question; Annually, how many people have died of Flu related illnesses;

Answer; A great majority

Question; Since the beginning of the pandemic, how many people have died of Covid related illnesses?

Answer; A great majority

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Response from the below average intelligent people;

“Yeah, but according to the CDC, approx. 9,000 people actually died of Covid, thus, evidently, the number of Covid deaths has been vastly overcounted, and for political reasons”

NOTE; I will not waste my time explaining “the reasons why” to people who have a learning disability.

 

First, you can develop a mRNA vaccine quickly.

Second, this is a new avenue of research. It will lead to new research, the kind the Right has been complaining about. But it will take time, and money.

 

How quickly? Were the Corona virus vaccines considered “quick”?

 

No idea. But I can tell you that they have been the holy grail for decades, partly because development would be a lot quicker.

That's my understanding.


"The first US shipments of the joint Pfizer–BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine were ready by mid-December. Credit: Michael Clevenger/Getty

When scientists began seeking a vaccine for the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus in early 2020, they were careful not to promise quick success. The fastest any vaccine had previously been developed, from viral sampling to approval, was four years, for mumps in the 1960s. To hope for one even by the summer of 2021 seemed highly optimistic.

But by the start of December, the developers of several vaccines had announced excellent results in large trials, with more showing promise. And on 2 December, a vaccine made by drug giant Pfizer with German biotech firm BioNTech, became the first fully-tested immunization to be approved for emergency use.

That speed of advance “challenges our whole paradigm of what is possible in vaccine development”, says Natalie Dean, a biostatistician at the University of Florida in Gainesville. It’s tempting to hope that other vaccines might now be made on a comparable timescale. These are sorely needed: diseases such as malaria, tuberculosis and pneumonia together kill millions of people a year, and researchers anticipate further lethal pandemics, too.

The COVID-19 experience will almost certainly change the future of vaccine science, says Dan Barouch, director of the Center for Virology and Vaccine Research at Harvard Medical School in Boston, Massachusetts. “It shows how fast vaccine development can proceed when there is a true global emergency and sufficient resources,” he says. New ways of making vaccines, such as by using messenger RNA (mRNA), have been validated by the COVID-19 response, he adds. “It has shown that the development process can be accelerated substantially without compromising on safety.”
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03626-1

 

Its amazing that people say "no big deal" or "hoax" when 1 million Americans die. Mortality spiked 20%, so yea, it was a big deal.

 

That's a whole lot of conspiracy theory thrown in that post.
Why would the entire world shut down and wreck their economies because they didn't like trump? Think about that.
Why would Repub govs shutdown parts of their economies and gov't just to get trump out of office? Think about that.

 

I can fall into that thought.
Pandemics don't come around all that often.

 

So the shot for covid didn't protect people from getting it, just reduced the severity of the symptoms? I agree.

So, for those that didn't get the shot, they did little to contribute to the spread then, but did take a risk of getting severely sick or dying. Personal choice.

 

Bullshit. Covid was and is going to spread. Do its thing and there is nothing we can do about it up less we go full China.

Bst thing that we can do is expand our clinics and have the ability to create triage. But shutting down the economy? That's proven to have been disastrous. It saved us nothing and wrecked the supply chain and the economy to boot. All for a ****ing flu that we found out early on was only dangerous to a very select group of people of whom we should have isolated.

I would be shocked if we willfully shut down again over covid.

 

If natural immunity is the ONLY protection, how did many unvaxed people get it more than 1 time?

 

And just how many are gullibilite to conspiracy theories.

 

China went into full lockdown more than 1X.
So, what's your solution to put China to shame?