Wokeness Wins the Ball Game: Cracker Jack Gets Upgraded to 'Cracker Jill'

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  1. HereWeGoAgain

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    That is how sales work. Your post is ridiculous.

    They sell to men in the same way.
     
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    To me it IS pathetic that this is what the right wing is worried about...given Ukraine and being on the verge of WWIII and all.
     
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    Coming next, pink M&Ms should be banned!
     
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    No, they don't. What unisex product or feminine product is a mirror example in which a marketing team appeals to men? Cracker Jack is a unisex product: it doesn't appeal to either men or women. It's caramel-coated popcorn. There was no need to specifically appeal to women. And this is not the first time that wokeness has contaminated a franchise.

    Might I remind you of this catastrophe:



    There was no need to make an all-female Ghostbusters, and a crappy one, at that. Instead of creating some "girl power" movie, but being original about it, wokeness decided to give the Ghostbusters franchise its anti-Midas touch treatment, turning to **** anything it touches.
     
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    Really? Multiple words have multiple meanings??? Nooooooo….like for sure? Super sure? Really sure? Totally sure??


    My mind. Blown. Kablooie.

    Go Google cancel culture. You clearly aren’t familiar with it. Guess what? It ain’t too concerned with alternative meanings of words.
     
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    Jokes on them. Jill is just jack minus the bottom surgery
     
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    Because a dash is not a hyphen and, after a dash, there is always a space. Additionally, the mark of punctuation I used (since you seem so interested in this) was not the dash, but the double dash; I kid you, not. For comparison, there is a difference between a comma, and a double comma, as well. There are numerous uses for a single comma, including to show that words are out of their normally expected order (as in, "I kid you, not") but the most common (when a comma is definitely called for) is to show that some word has been omitted. I admit that I frequently use them just to show a pause in phrasing, when they are not absolutely necessary (though that does not make them incorrect). An example of showing omission, would be in my previous sentence, after the word, "phrasing," in which the comma takes the place of the words, "which is (when they are not...)." I could have written, "I admit, I frequently use them..." replacing the word "that," with a comma.

    The double commas, however, do not show missing words but, rather, operate as a team, to separate a word or supporting phrase, from the sentence's main line of thought (as they are used around the words however, and rather, in this sentence). After the word, "team," the single comma takes the place of "so as (to separate a word...)." Oftentimes, the words that a comma replaces are "then," "therefore," "thusly," or similar terms. Looking at my prior sentences, once more:"...so as to separate a word or supporting phrase thusly from the sentence's main line of thought."

    The double dash is akin to both the double comma, and the parentheses. They all separate spurs, from the main idea of the sentence; the difference between them, indicates how closely connected the separated material is, to what came just before, and to the overall sentence. Commas are used to show the closest connection, and double dashes, to show the greatest break from the rest of the thought. Here, again, I must explain that I have been going with dashes more frequently than I properly should, but that is because the nature of this conversational text, makes the dashes more effective: IOW, this is not a context in which one always expects "proper" usage; for that matter, newspaper articles also use dashes far more than they properly should, for the same reason that I cited: they are more attention- grabbing, to the reader.

    As for the single dash, it means that whatever comes after the dash, is really meant to go first, so that the order of ideas, in the sentence, have been reversed. I could have, for example, instead of using a semi-colon, written, at the start of this reply: "...the mark of punctuation I used...was not the dash, but the double dash-- I kid you, not."

    As an aside, though, I do sometimes, now, leave a space after a hyphen, as well, because of my new phone's spell-check function. Except for a limited list of terms, such as " spell-check," it will mark with a red squiggle, any hyphenated word, without a space (and I find the squiggles distracting, so try to minimize them); the word, above, " semi-colon," has a red squiggle beneath it, even as we speak. So, I basically follow the rule that if the hyphenated term is a known thing, like spell-check, or a semi-colon, I do not leave a space, but if it is a case of my own wish to tie two words, such as I did with, "attention- grabbing," then I do.

    I hope this answers all your questions about my use of hyphens and dashes; I do not think you are ready, however, for me to discuss the differences between these and the semi-colon, as well as the colon, quite yet.
     
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    I have heard that more than a few times directed at me working here at a gas station.
     
  9. FatBack

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    Commas are very important, they can save lives...watch.

    Let's eat grandma.
    Let's eat, grandma.
     
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    This is not at all true. You suggested that my inclusion of a comma, after the word, "woke," was a grammatical mistake on my part. I explained in my post, that it was not. So, for you to first, not understand the use of the comma, but more than that, to be so sure of what a terrible abuse of the language this was, that you would make it the leading (i.e., top) argument, in your response, demonstrates how poor a grasp you must have on the mechanics of the language (which directly relates to literacy). Is that comprehendible to you, or should I try again, just using pictures?

    This "random tangent," is actually the explanation, you complain about not being given, in the top part of your reply, in which you say of my claim, I am just, "leaving it out there in the breeze," rather than explaining it. Once again, you are indicting your own literacy, at least.

    See my
    random tangent.


    One must tailor one's words, to the level of one's audience; I was replying to this comment:

    Xyce said: ↑
    Your side self-describes as woke, as opposed to enlightened. You don't refer to yourselves as enlightened; rather, you refer to yourselves as woke. Perhaps because you can't spell "enlightened." The graphic is a self-own, and the self-own has been emphasized by you
    .


    If the person whom I was addressing, could not grasp that
    the slang usage of "woke," makes it a synonym for "enlightened," it would be overly- presumptuous of me to assume that he was even familiar with the term "synonym;" hence, my giving excess description was meant as a kindness, so that the reader would at least recognize that I was referring to some similar connection, between words.


    So nice of the person, who lectures about brevity (which relates to your direction, "be concise," in case I lost you, there), to finally get to the point.

    Your argument is beyond ignorant, demonstrating as well, the challenges you face, in grasping concepts. You depict the popularization of some new, slang usage of a word, to be as if it is decided by vote, which is not the way that works, FYI. Second, the meaning of "woke," in this new context, could be roughly equated with the idea of having an "enlightened," view. So you are arguing that, in the coinage of any new usage of a word, the societal subset will always choose, amongst any other words that could be synonymous, the most difficult one to spell, of which they are capable? That is your brilliant argument? So that is what explains the simplicity of words like, "groovy," "cool," and, "chilling?" You show yourself to have no concept of the formation of new slang. It is not important that the original "normal," meaning of the word, is not the same, as its slang meaning. Therefore,
    it is idiotic to assume that the only reason the minter of the word "woke," did not use "enlightened," was because he could not spell it: had he used the term "enlightened," it would not be coining a slang usage*-- duhhhhh!

    The whole idea of "slang," is that it is an UNCONVENTIONAL use of the word
    . So any word might have been chosen, if the broader community ended up connecting it, with the idea it was intended to suggest: having an enlightened view, on race, gender, & minority issues, & so forth.


    *I cannot wait to read your pretentious criticism-- from the person who, to all appearances, has no clue as to what a slang term is-- that I could have foregone the words "a...usage," above, and just have said, "... it would not have been coining slang."



    And your closing is not at all clever (despite what you, no doubt, think of it). You would have been better off, sticking to your practice of appropriating your clever exits, from others.
     
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    Yeah, I saw you post that elsewhere-- very funny. :laughing: :grandma::lick:
     
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    Grandma might be into lesbian gangbangs. You never know...
     
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    Exhibits A-Infinity. Their deity has been having a public nervous breakdown since November 2020. Any questions? ;-)

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    Thanks for the advice, but I make it a policy not to rely on the direction of people who have such a giant chip on their shoulder, that it seems impossible for them to ever respond to anything other than an agreeing comment, with anything less antagonistic than the heavy sarcasm, you felt my mere statement of a fact, here, warranted.
     
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    Jack, Jill, its soooo binary. Not inclusive to trans at all.

    SHAME on Frito-Lay for not being more progressive.

    Neutral names starting with J - Nonbinary Wiki

    They coulda gone with 'Cracker Jamyangs', but I guess that wasn't WHITE enough for them. Racist and bigoted. SMH
     
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    Still waiting for my ****s to give. Behold, the field where they once grew is barren...
     
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    I don't think Frito-Lay is right wing and the ones in most worried about it because they spent the money for the rebranding.

    If you would rather talk about Ukraine there are plenty of threads for you to do that and why don't you go and talk on those you don't have to do everything about crackerjacks again
     
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    I guess Jack can go and hang out with Aunt Jemima. And Uncle Ben.
     
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    They are not rebranding Cracker Jack. This is just a temporary special edition that they are doing to promote women's sports. I really do not see anything wrong with this.

    LINK: Frito-Lay® Introduces Cracker Jill™ to Support and Celebrate Women in Sports | FritoLay
     
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    I call my little homestead "CrackerLand"
     
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    Condescension can be applied multiple ways, heavy sarcasm is only the most obvious. Being more subtle about it through “simple”statements of the obvious doesn’t make you any less guilty of it, nor any less deserving of having it returned right back at you.
     
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    Yes, WWIII is approaching and the left is all stressed out about pro nouns, CRT, global warming and making sure kindergartners are educated on the 654 different genders.
     
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    It's a distinct reflection on the state of our culture why should it not be discussed?
     
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    Can you show me any such female icons of our social culture who have been transformed into male characters?
     
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    There it is right there, the epitome of your ignorance: the rules of when to use a comma to separate structural units falls under punctuation, whereas grammar focuses on how words function and are arranged in a sentence, such as the rules of syntax. Punctuation and grammar are two separate aspects of language. Any well-respected tome of language usage would have separate chapters or sections on each. Your unmistakable lack of knowledge of these fundamentals perfectly explains why you write the way you do. That is why you are woke, not enlightened; and you are putting me to sleep with your hogwash.
     
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