Russia Declares War on Ukraine<<MOD WARNING>>

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  1. The Scotsman

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    .....that's because the BBC is a news program not an arts and craft channel
     
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    ..I'd imaging there'd be a bloody long queue....
     
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    Biden has turned the progressive democrats, wage earners, and antifascists over to their political enemies.

    Worst, Biden and the neoCons have been cultivating for years the Ukrainian fascists, a politically power force in Eastern Europe. The Ukrainian Fascist run the political system in their country with severe punishment for the mildest descent. Biden has injected in the Ukrainian fascists into American political life already.

    Biden has said that he is not a socialist in a swipe at Sanders, that he is a capitalist to submit to the Republicans, but notice he has never said he is not a fascist.

    Biden and the corporate democrats have allowed these Ukrainian fascist (highly trained in modern weaponry and sophisticated propaganda) to completely control the false reporting on the Russian/Ukrainian Civil War that the Russians are confused, killed by U.S. anti-tank weapons, Russian tanks are out of fuel, that they have no communications with other Russian units and so the soldiers are calling their mothers in Russia on cell phones in a panic! Now just think about that for a moment. Think how stupid the Ukrainian narrative of the war is today. Those reports are false, and Biden's administration, the U.S. congress, and the US media know it is false. Biden has thrown hundreds of millions of US taxpayer dollars at the Ukrainian fascists while setting aside $0 dollars for Covid. There is in fact no Covid budget, or national Covid policy.

    The truth is the corrupt Ukrainian fascists are dying by the thousands at this very moment. Putin is solving his Nazi problem that the US had planted and stoked for years with billions of dollars, media training, and false promises national independence.

    Here is a famous quote from George Orwell recounting has a fascist soldier shot him in the neck in Spain:
    Quote:
    "My wound was not much, but it was a miracle it did not kill me. The bullet went clean through my neck but missed everything expect one vocal cord, or the nerve governing it, which is paralyzed. At first I had no voice at all, but now the other vocal cord is compensating and the damaged one may or may recover. My voice is practically normal but I can't shout to any extent. I also can't sing, but people tell me this doesn't matter. I am rather glad to have been hit by a bullet because I think it will happen to us all in the near future and I am glad to know that it doesn't hurt to speak of....I don't, however, agree with the pacifist attitude, as I believe you do. I still think one must fight for Socialism and against Fascism, I mean fight physically with weapons, only it is as well to discover which is which....Letter to Mrs. Rayner Heppenstall, 31 July 1937. (Owrell, Volume 1 Essays, Journalism & Letters: An Age Like This, 1920-1940, ed. Sonia Orwell and Ian Angus, Publ. Nonpareil Books, 1968, page 279)."

    Currently, the Russian military is once again defeating the Nazis, but this time without the U.S. help because the U.S. has itself has become fascist. The Ukrainian fascists and their hostages are now held up in a steel plant in Mariupol. You see, the fascists were never near winning against the Russian army--they are much better at intimidating women, old men, and children just like here in the United States. The Russians now have corralled 100,000 fascists in what is called in military jargon a "Cauldron" where they will shoot the Azov fascists into pieces. (For the a detailed description of the current military situation see Scott Ritter's interview below at 5 min. 40 sec.).

    So, good luck to the Russian army in fighting the American back Ukrainian Azov Fascist Rats. Too bad that Biden, and the Democrats are cowards when faced with this fascist threat in the Ukraine and even here at home.

    Kharkov is being defended by Nazis, says Scott Ritter... what next for Ukraine?
     
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    He was a Jew hating racist PIG of a man. Happy to murder innocents if
    their origins offended him and they fell within the reach of his evil
    Malice.

    H
    e was a Nazi collaborator, a theorist, ideologue and leader of the militant
    wing
    of the far-right Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists known for its
    involvement in Terrorist activities. The OUN and other Fascist organizations
    no doubt demon born, out of the
    Hatreds generated from the Soviet Atrocities
    committed against the Ukrainian people we know as the Holodomor

    A Fascist SWINE to whom the color sticks. As it does with the proud Nazi
    inspired regalia and ritual of AZOV's filthy ROT. And those who attempt to
    Rehabilitate and give Apology to this Human Waste only smear and sully
    THEMSELVES and make THEMSELVES complicit with their Dirty Crimes
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    Stepan Bandera
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera
    From The Article:
    ......(Humane)..Ukrainians condemn him as a fascist[26] and a war criminal[27] who was,
    together with his followers, largely responsible for the massacres of Polish civilians[28]
    and partially for the Holocaust in Ukraine.[29][30][31][32]


    Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organization_of_Ukrainian_Nationalists

    Ukrainian Collaboration With Nazi Germany
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_collaboration_with_Nazi_Germany


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    Ukraine was caught between two warring fascist powers. Some fought on one side and others on the other. Bandera was a nationalist interested in Ukrainian sovereignty, not a Nazi.
     
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    Care to give us the list of atrocities committed by Bandera or anyone under his meaningful command?
     
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    Russia was a Nazi whore, and a lot more valuable a whore than Bandera could ever be. Russia did more than any other European nation to help Germany Re-arm and then carry out its plans to occupy Europe. Then when Germany finally decided the whore was no longer useful Russia came begging to the few nations Germany hadn't occupied with Russian assistance. Fortunately for Russia they decided to help.

    I guess its lucky the aid Russia gave to the Nazis wasn't enough to let them invade Britain, otherwise you and your fascist-supporting buddies would be supporting a different brand of Fascism....assuming any of you even existed.

    You have to be a moron to support a leadcer who behaves exactly like Hitler and Stalin, yet you and many others here do.
     
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    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlan-10

    For laughs.
    This is the Russian UAV. About 200 were shot down over Ukraine. Open up the Wikipedia page and scroll to Specifications > Optical Imaging.

    :roflol:

    I saw one member of Ukrainian armed forces break it down and pull out a camera that can be found in an average electronics store and thought maybe the under equipped Russian troops had to improvise in the field, but it looks like the the drone really was designed to use such cameras. :omfg:
     
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    Why Russia keeps losing armored vehicles: "It's finders keepers" (msn.com)
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    Why Russia keeps losing armored vehicles: "It's finders keepers"
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    As Ukraine attempts to evacuate civilians from Mariupol, including some who remain trapped inside a steel plant, Russian forces have claimed victory in the city. But Russia's recent defeats in and around Kyiv expose unresolved weaknesses, starting with Russia's armored vehicles.
    To date, Ukraine says Russia has lost close to 3,000 armored vehicles — but only half in combat.
    "It's not good military leadership if you are losing so many men and so much equipment," Ukrainian military expert Yuri Zbanatski told CBS News' Chris Livesay.

    In the city of Bucha, a graveyard of Russian tanks remain behind — damaged by artillery, fragments and explosions.

    Oryx, a military and intelligence blog which counts Russia's military losses in Ukraine on the basis of photographs sent from the war zone, reports that Russia has lost more than 460 tanks.

    "They [the tanks] were abandoned or ran out of fuel, and it's finders keepers for these farmers," Zbanatski said. "Their personnel is not properly trained. Their commanding officers are not able to plan their offensive operations properly."

    Russia's power is now being tested in the eastern Donbas region. The urban environment around Kyiv that gave Ukraine's fighters defensive shelter is now gone and replaced with open terrain and long-range artillery – including dozens of howitzers that Ukraine received from the United States.
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    If you can imagine that Russia is losing to Ukraine. It tells me that the defensive home team has the upper hand and will continue to do so for days, weeks, and possibly months to come. Ukraine still won't give up. They would rather die than surrender.

    It sure looks that way.
     
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    When people post like they just created a ransom letter with cut-out newspaper letters, I tend to seriously doubt their sanity or ability to think coherently.
     
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    I am Synesthete -- I perceive, think & express MYSELF differently from YOU

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    What is wrong about using Canon? It is quite a good camera with a good light gathering objective.
     
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    It does has some advantages in terms of spare parts/ease of replacement. In fact the whole drone follows a 'cheap as chips' design philosophy. And why not. Its a low altitude, low speed short ranged drone designed for battalion level operations. Whats the better option? A few, expensive high tech drones equipping only a small number of selected units or having something 'OKish' you can supply to most of the units that need it. Hell most of the missiles and launchers used to shoot them down probably cost 10 times what each drone did!

    That said it is one more indication of how stretched Russia's defense budget is and has been for decades. It simply can't afford to equip its combat formations to the level NATO and other Western armies can. Excel in a handful of niche capabilities? Yes. Match NATO across the entire range of modern military technologies? No way. For that matter the Chinese are probably further ahead in that regard. Every day just reveals more evidence of how hollowed out their armed forces are after 20 years of Putin.
     
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    Talk about Nazism is designed to cover up the main thing - the deployment of US medium-range nuclear missiles near the borders of Russia.
    I have a question for the haters of Russia. Will the US remain a democracy if it has the world's only nuclear arsenal? What will be the arguments in favor of this?
     
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    Russia, unlike the United States, does not consider itself an exclusive country. US leaders followed the path of Hitler. We don't need new ubermenshes.
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    Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton made a case for US exceptionalism and leadership around the world, saying that other countries would step in to fill the vacuum and calling America “the global force for freedom, justice and human dignity.”
     
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    You can regurgitate Putin's hollow lies all you want. You just look worse every time you do.
     
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    In any case, Russia cannot be defeated until it has used up all of its nuclear warheads.
     
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    Is my question really that difficult? Will the US remain a democracy if it has the world's only nuclear arsenal? What arguments will be in favor of this?
     
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    Already statues of Lenin & communist flags are going up in occupied parts of Ukraine. After all the lectures about 'Nazi' symbolism & statues of Bandera Russians just can't wait to erect monuments to their favourite mass murdering dictator (after Putin) and fly the flags of the mass murdering totalitarian state he created.

    All so very, very predictable. Russians just being Rusisans - celebrating mass murdering dictators and dictatorship is in the DNA.
     
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    Can you stop tagging me please!!! Wah wah blub blub
     
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    You question is stupid, so I'm not wasting time on it.

    You are trying to distract from your support for the raping, looting, murdering barbarian hordes Putin has unleashed in Ukraine. I'm not letting you.
     
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    You seem to have missed the fact that no-one is attacking Russia, rather Russia is attacking someone else! NATO hasn't fired so much as one bullet let alone a nuclear missile at Russia. And that's the thing about nuclear weapons. While they are excellent at deterring attack they are pretty much useless as a means of projecting military force. Russia literally cant use nuclear weapons in its war with Ukraine (to attack NATO) without being destroyed itself. It could, in theory use them against Ukraine alone, but only at the cost of becoming an international pariah, next years destitute North Korea. No-one, not even China would support you. On the plus side though, given prevailing wind patterns you would get to share the 'fallout' from such a barbaric act in a much more immediate fashion than you might wish.

    To be clear. There is no 'upside' to this war for Russia. Win and the West will 'ignore' you into abject poverty. Lose and Russia will be revealed as a military paper tiger. Something China will be interested in knowing. It will leverage that fact into indirect 'control' if not outright ownership of everything East of the Urals. Putin has ruined you and the only way out that will save anything for Russia is a negotiated settlement and even that will see Ukraine in the EU, prosperous and successful while Russia under Putin continues to wither.
     
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    Yes, Russia can be defeated. These warheads it possesses cannot be used without the West using its warheads
    back on Russia. Russia could use its tactical nukes, but there aint much tactical left in the Russian military - all you
    would do is take out ports, airfields etc.. Then what?
    I would like to see Belarus and Georgia, for starters, take back their countries.
     
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    US arms? Is this Russian troops are still in Georgia, Belarus, Chechnya, Syria etc.,
    Is this why dissidents keep getting murdered in Russia?

    Fact is - the control of information in Russia is why Putin made such a mistake invading Ukraine
    and the corruption in Russia is why Putin's army can't effectively fight against Ukraine. Kind of
    funny, really.
     
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