INSANE THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION: Biden’s New ‘Ministry of Truth’ Director Is a Raving Lunatic

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  1. fmw

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    Here is a governrment expense we can avoid. Since there are always two truths to any political subject all we have to do is read the two truths. We already know what this woman will determine as the truth. She says it and writes it. The government can't act on it anyway because of the first amendment. Total waste of money to accomplish nothing. Feeding the base can be expensive and should be handled by the political parties, not the government.
     
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    The guy who get's vetoed by the Easter Bunny isn't a POTUS.
     
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    Where are all the Libs that were screaming and howling at the moon about “DESANTIS IS USING THE GOVERNMENT TO ATTACK FREEDOM OF SPEECH RAWWWWRRRR!!1!!1!1”?
     
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    Haha that legit made me lol
     
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    He is certainly party of the new crop of Republican leaders that I'd like to see in the primaries in 2024. Right now, all eyes and efforts are on 2022 and restoring some bit of sanity to national policy:

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    So, you think that Nina Jankowicz is someone you would want deciding what is true and what is disinformation? If she is the board leader who are the other members? Is there an even split between liberals and conservatives? Are there any actual independents on the board?

    In the past few years, both sides of the aisles have projected their own brand of false narratives.

    On COVID-19: If you have one of the vaccines, you cannot get the virus. There were many that disputed that claim that were kicked off of social media. Yet, it turned out to be a false claim. Many that were vaccinated got the virus, and some of those vaccinated died from the virus.

    The most blatant example of pushing disinformation was the Washington Post story on the Hunter Biden Laptop. Social media suspended the Washington post account on twitter claiming the story pertained to the hacking of the laptop. That was a complete lie, and the social media platforms have admitted that they knew it was a lie from the beginning. It was simply a way of silencing the story during the election cycle. This Nina Jankowicz, actually weighted in on the story calling it Trump Campaign product. I am sure you know by now that the Washington Post story was true. It was not Russian disinformation nor a campaign product.

    My personal opinion on the subject is that I would not want to see any party having the power to censor the narrative in this country. This is the kind of thing you see in Russia or China. It has no place in this country.
     
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    I don't give a rats ass about social media. There is a problem with the Right constantly lying, I fight that here.

    Speak of disinformation, and look what pops it's ugly head up.. Nothing like picking up a Russian scam and running with it..

    Actually, we have always struggled with finding the line between what is acceptable, and what is beyond the pale. Google Alien and Sedition Act, and find out about Spittin' Jack...
     
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    You really need do some research. The Department of Homeland Security that GWB founded was nothing more than a clearance house for information obtained from other agencies such as CIA, FBI, DIA ect. Prior to 9/11 there was intra-agency hording of information. The Department of Homeland Security was basically received information from all the agencies and disseminated it to every other agency. It was the Obama Administration that expanded the Department of Homeland Security into an actionable agency.

    As far as warrantless wiretaps, those were reserved for calls originating from overseas.

    Yet, none of this has to do with censoring Americans. But answer me this, how is this Disinformation Board any different than the government-controlled media in Russia or China? Do you actually think any political party in this country should have censorship authority?
     
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    Wow, all you have is your own disinformation and unrelated topics?

    And the left doesn't? Are you really that naive?

    See this is a perfect example of competing narratives. You claim that the Hunter Biden Laptop story is a Russian Scam. Yet, there are many sources, including the New York Times, that have stated that the story was actually true, and that there is a Grand Jury Investigations ongoing. So, is it real or a Russian Scam? Would you have me silenced for using the story as an example, or should I have you silenced for pushing a false narrative?


    I see that you believe in the whole matto: If you can't dazzle with brilliance, baffle with BS.

    The Alien and Sedition Act was passed in 1798. Signed into law by John Adams. It extended the length of residency to become a citizen from five to 14 years. It is no longer valid. It has been replaced by the current Immagration and Naturalization laws. You might have been thinking about the Alien Enemies Act that was signed into law in 1941 by FDR. That law was used by the Trump Administration to restrict citizens from seven nations that was known for exporting terrorism. Trump used that law after the San Bernardino terrorist attack. But that has nothing to do with the censorship of American Citizens.

    As far as Spittin' Jack, you'll have to enlighten me. I tried Yahoo, Google and Bing search engines, and none of them have anything that relating to censorship.
     
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    The point was that we have long struggled with the limits of free speech. Spittin Jack was thrown in jail for what he said, and the good citizens of Vermont voted to keep him in office, while still in jail.

    Which was a problem. The government faced contradictory imperatives. If they left him in jail, they would be violating the spirit of the social contract that was the federal government. They came to their senses, and let him out. That was when it became "invalid".

    As one famous justice put it, the Constitution is not a suicide pact. If your actions harm the Republic, or it's people, then your behavior can reasonably be restricted.

    There was a tv show titled The Constitution, That Delicate Balance. Finding that balance is often tricky.
     
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  12. rkhames

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    The Illiberal Left doesn't actually seem to be against censorship.

    MRC announced, "MRC analysts examined all broadcast (ABC, CBS, NBC) and liberal cable (CNN, MSNBC) coverage of Florida’s latest education law between February 1 and April 28. During that time, we found 230 instances in which anchors, analysts, and contributors referred to the law as the Don’t Say Gay bill, but only 18 cases where they used its official name — the Parental Rights in Education bill."

    "TV. Misinforming the public since its invention."

    When they say "truth" they mean "the Left's Narrative".

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    They are propagandists in the service of the Democrat Party.

    https://www.mrctv.org/videos/study-media-12x-more-likely-use-dems-label-fl-education-law

    "“Don’t Say Gay” was the phrasing adopted by the bill’s critics. MSNBC hosts and contributors alike habitually used the Democrats’ label as though it were the bill’s official name.
     
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    Maybe you should provide a full actual name, so that I can look up what he said that caused him to be jailed. Not to mention the timeframe that this occurred.

    We all know that you cannot yell fire in a crowded theater. But there is some latitude on that point. When BLM chanted that they wanted dead cops now, they were not arrested when cops began dying. When Democrats gave support for violent protest, they were not imprisoned. That makes me wonder about this story that you are using as an example. I would like to research it.

    My point is that government censorship is never a good thing. No matter who, or what party, is in power. What is really worrisome about this board is that the Department of Homeland Security has announced the creation of the board but has so far refused to provide further information. In the words of John Emerich Edward Dalberg Acton, "Absolute power corrupts absolutely". Would you really want the GOP having control of a board that could declare all liberal narratives a lie? I wouldn't. Nor do I want to see the DNC have control of the board that the Director of Homeland Security has just announced.

    So, please provide me the real name of the individual that you are calling Spittin' Jack.
     
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    Not too long ago both Psaki and Pelosi said that the media should be doing more to promote the President's accomplishments. In a society with a so-called free press, it is the job of the Administration to promote the President's accomplishments. Not that of the press. The Media is supposed to be engaged in the pursuit of facts not promoting fiction!
     
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    ah.... the ole' "Reichsministerium für Volksaufklärung und Propaganda"... we ain't heard that one in awhile. Looks like our boy crime boss Joe Biden is bringing it back to cover up his criminal activities.
     
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    First he had denial and then he had excuses.
     
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    What a nonsense statement in general .. void of meaning .. sans a cry in the dark "False False False" -- to information which conflicts with spoon fed Blue narrative. Which fact has you conflicted so thus.
     
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    right on topic with this thread - Trump's ‘Ministry of Truth’ won't like it though
     
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    "Lyon became known in the halls of Congress as “the spitting beast,” and the “wild Irishman”
    whose coarse and bombastic manner made him a frequent target of abuse.

    He was indicted for sedition on Oct. 5, 1798, and arrested the next day, fined $1,000 and
    sentenced to four months in prison.48 The Philadelphia Aurora observed that Lyon “had the
    honour of being the first victim of a law framed directly in the teeth of the Constitution of this
    federal republic.”49 For the first time in American history, a candidate for Congress was forced to
    conduct his election campaign from a federal prison.50 Despite these Federalist efforts to
    suppress his campaign and his rhetoric, Lyon was re-elected to Congress by an overwhelming majority.51 He was released from prison on Feb. 9, 1799, and was met with a triumphant parade, with supporters declaring him a “martyr to the cause of Liberty and the Rights of Man.”
    https://www.freedomforuminstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Sedition_Act_cases.pdf

    One of his nicknames was Spittin' Jack.
     
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    You keep on spouting out phrases without attaching any meaning .. What are these facts that conflict with your Blue kool-aid propaganda narrative
     
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    did you forget what thread you are in?
     
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    Nope . but think you did .. this woman is a leftist extremist - hates privacy rights - freedom of speech, expression .. a collectivist - justifying law on the basis of fallacious utilitarianism..

    Now what about the facts conflicts with the Blue propaganda narrative .. has your curls in a bunch ?
     
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    Yes. The Alien and Sedition Act. When I saw this "Ministry of Truth" crap and even previously the WH coordination with Facebook and Twitter to censor, this past error is what came to my mind as well.

    John Adams was one hell of a guy, one of the few Founders who refused to hold slaves, but, The Alien and Sedition Act is a big big mar on his record.
    Yes. Under the hated Sedition Act, we actually jailed congressmen for critical writings of the Administration.
    Fear that the President would restore the despised monarchy, was very real during this period. Jailing folks that voiced these fears, didn't help.
    Publishers were fined and jailed.
    As you can see, this was quite a misstep for a Free Constitutional Democracy.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_and_Sedition_Acts [excerpts]

    He wanted President Adams to retire and VP Jefferson to be president, and for stating this loudly and forcibly, he served 18 months in prison.

    Angry Americans filled the streets furious at this encroachment on our basic human rights. Jefferson won the 1800 election and the hated acts were for the most part allowed to lapse, unrenewed. Jefferson pardoned everyone still jailed and Congress reimbursed them for their fines.

    It was a terrible early mis step, and it's amazing that these demented clowns are trying to repeat it. It won't get far. Fortunately, there are enough in Congress and the Judiciary that aren't drooling mouth breathing idiots, that at the earliest opportunity, they will make short work of this latest boneheaded move from the First Moron.

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