Musk, Tesla, Twitter...Disney, Deathsantis, Gay

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  1. gringo

    gringo Well-Known Member Donor

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    allotta threads about these topics

    I had some time ,

    so one more cannot hurt

    Musk, Tesla, Twitter

    Musk is only considered eccentric because he is wealthy..

    without money, Musk just a weird guy...his wheels will fall off at some point

    it is reported the guy dont sleep..he seems to be a modern day howard hughes

    Subaru sold more cars than Telsa last year...telsa is NOT knockem dead

    https://www.factorywarrantylist.com/sales-report.html

    Tesla has a LOOOONNNGGGG way to go before it is actually a viable car company

    and anybody that thinks the European and Asian car makers are going just roll over and allow Musk to dominate the car market knows nothing of human nature or big business

    the Germans and Asians were producing cars long before Tesla came along and will be producing cars long after tesla is gone ..

    now twitter

    the only noticeable change that will be on twitter is trump will return....

    for some reason people think "free speech" will be when twitter allows people to make threats and post absolute lies on its platform...and if anything has been proven since a 30 year old kid created twitter is that it is not against the law to post lies and make threats

    twitter was created for kids and the adult chidren decided they wanted it

    twitter will return to the trump era and it will be filled with LIES LIES and more LIES

    if you want the truth, dont read twitter or be very choosy who you follow

    any reader can censor/cancel any user with a simple unfollow click..just like it has always been ..twitter stays basically the same just more of it

    and now Deathsantis

    he is a 43 year old spoiled army brat that barely beat a gay. drug using democrat to become governor ..he won by 35,000 votes..and nobody claims the election was rigged because he won..had he lost then the GOP would be claiming election fraud

    the GOP is playing him like a fiddle...he is doing what they tell him

    Deathsantis is NOT that smart...he is kinda a dufus

    Disney was up and running before desantis was even born....my guess, as a child desantis visited the place himself to visit mickey mouse and goofy

    the GOP needed attention, so they used disney to get the craved attention

    desantis may get a lucky punch on disney, but , Disney is one of the most loved companies for children the world has ever known ...from movies to books to merchandise to amusement parks in every corner of the world..DISNEY aint going nowhere

    Disney was around long before DeSantis came around and will be around long after DeSantis is gone ...

    desantis is nothing more than a puppet...and the more power he gets the less of a puppet he will accept being...like all polticians that become popular, he will cease to realize he is just another chump with a big mouth and fall off his high horse..just like trump did

    the gay thing is already taking a backseat in Florida..and rightly so..it was never an issue until the GOP put up DeSantis to talking about it because he has the megaphone
     
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    Yet Telsa stock is at $870 a share. Where Disney is around $115.
    And Telsa is the most successful independent car companies in history
    Not to mention that Musk has become the leader in space travel and privatized space travel.

    You really should catch up on current events


    Wrong, Trump has already stated he will not return to Twitter as Truth Social has become the number one app on Apple


    Its funny how the 1st Amendment has worked among adults for over 200 years but you think Twitter (Created by kids, for kids) should be the moderator of truth?

    They only speech moderation we use is for children. So you believe your speech should be moderated by Twitter?
    Thats amazing


    False, Disney attacked DeSantis and his bill and stuck its nose where it doesn't belong.

    Yet Disney stock has tanked over 40% and still diving. I guess a theme park pushing for exposing 5 year olds to trans and gay sexuality issues under their woke agenda didn't pan out as anticipated as 55% of Democrats in the state voted for the new bill.
    Again, you should get caught up

    And speaking of wokeness, a lot more things have changed if you haven't been keeping score

    Disney lost their special use permit
    CNN and MSNBC have lost over 80% of their viewership over false articles exactly like your OP
    Fox news now holds the number 1-2-3-4-and 5 top positions in cable news networks
    Disney stock has tanked now 40% and still tanking
    Virginia has lost its Democrat governance
    Illegals are being bused to DC's front door step
    Biden's mask mandate has been shot down
    Biden's attempt to remove title 42 has been shot down
    The president who supposedly received the most votes in history has the lowest approval rating in history
    The woke's left echo chamber to control the narrative (Twitter) is now owned by conservatives
    Truth Social is now the number one app on Apple with more people joining per month than Twitter ever had

    Meaning, people don't buy into these fake claims any more which is why 55% of Democrats voted for DeSantis bill.[/QUOTE]
     
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    Musk has good ideas, is an innovator, and supports free speech. What is not to like? So he's rich, but he seems like a happy and intelligent guy. I say support him until he proves he's a bad dude.
     
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    [/QUOTE]


    don't judge a book by its cover

    yes, Tesla stock is high...but regardless of the stock price..Subaru sells more cars

    yes disney stock is down..maybe because for 2 years the pandemic kinda effected there business model

    and Disney has at least twice the employees as tesla

    yes Musk is the leader in space travel....he has helped 10's of people ride to space for 10 minutes

    how large is the demand to ride a huge ******* into the heavens?? how large is his consumer pool??

    dont forget .. Bezos is also riding bick dicks into space

    the entire deal between disney and deathsantis was started by a few snaggle toothed trumpers

    between the doses of STD meds , those rednecks needed something to keep their life exciting

    the highest percentage of STD cases is at a place swamped with trumpers ..the villages in central Florida

    you are very confused about twitter ..you are free not to use it , or use it....

    the first ammendment does not apply to twitter..and it will not apply to truth social

    how long before truth social begins blocking content and users they dont like??

    to repeat myself

    Disney was around LONG before desantis ... and will be around LONG after he is gone
     
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    You don't have to dig too deep to find things not so flattering about his behavior.
    1. He promised to ship 1000 ventilators around the country at the height of covid. He didn't. The shipments contained, basically, PAP machines.
    2. He made a big splash about donating $6B to the UN's World Food Program. He asked for an explanation of how it would be distributed - which they did and opened their books. To this point, they've receive zero contributions from Musk.
    3. In 2018, he promised to fix any and all houses affected in Flint. To date, he has only spent half a million dollars donating clean water fountains to 12 schools in Flint.

    It seems that he is overly generous with promises but fails to follow through.
     
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    So you claim. So the man changed his mind. I've done that many times. You list penny ante crap. Got anything as bad as Hunter Biden?
     
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    I suspect that the hospitals desperately needing ventilators didn't see it as 'penny ante crap'. Nor the families in Michigan who had hope for clean water. Nor the world's hungry.

    I'm not suggesting he's evil - I'm simply stating what I've already said - he is overly generous with promises but fails to follow through.
     
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    The left is afraid of Elon Musk because he might just do what he said he would do. That is allow true free speech. In other words, he will not kick everyone off Twitter that does not toe the DNC woke party line. He will allow narratives that the DNC claims are false that later have been proven to be true. This is why the Biden Administration is starting the so-called disinformation board. The DNC wants to control the narrative. That is the only way they can stay in power.

    They hate Desantis because he has proven the fake narratives that the DNC and the CDC has pushed dealing with Covid were not true. Now, they are going after a bill that enforces Parental Rights in Education. This law restricts schools from any act that encourages students to have information from their parents. It also does not allow the schools to enter into discussions of sexual orientation or gender identity during primary school grades. You might note that this does not say elementary school grades. Primary school grades are from K-3 in the United States. Why would anyone feel it necessary to have that type of discussion with someone that young is beyond me. Those ages are confusing enough as they are.

    Desantis has taken action against Disney because they had special status that allowed themselves self-governing authority within the state of Florida, but they chose to weigh in on the law with the false narrative of "Don't say Gay." If they wanted to be accurate, it should have at least have been "Don't say gay before the fourth grade." Since Disney wants to become part of the discussion, they should be afforded the same rights of any other business within the state. Such as having to following zoning requirements.

    You should take this into consideration. If Desantis were to be elected President in 2024, would you want him controlling the DHS Disinformation Control Board.
     
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    I don't. I judge it by its performance.
    Subaru? lol Man, when you step in you go neck deep, huh
    Subaru stock value is $7.53 a share.
    Telsa stock value is $870 a share
    Its about return on investment, not how many cars you can sell. lol
    OMG

    Disney stock in down 40% with the largest chunk after losing their Special use permit.
    And still falling.
    Guess butting in to show your wokeness to provide trans and gay sexuality issues to 5 year olds didn't quite pan out for them. huh

    Again, you seem to speaking to delusional people.
    SpaceX is reducing space transportation costs to enable the colonization of Mars and manufactures the Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy launch vehicles, several rocket engines, Cargo Dragon, crew spacecraft, and Starlink communications satellites.
    You should get out more


    Again, more delusions from the defeated woke leftist.
    Disney, and Disney alone announced they were going to spend what ever it takes to defeat DeSantis new law.
    And just an FYI, 55% of Democrats in Florida voted for DeSanits new law.
    Like I said, you need to get out more
    Sounds a lot more like the TDS left crying about getting their ass handed to them because they want to teach trans and gay sexuality issues to 5 year olds.

    Again, delusions and confusions by the woke left.
    Its not about the 1st amendment. Its about the woke left losing their precious little echo chamber and now they can't ban speech they don't like any more.
    Again, you really need to get out more

    The kingdoms of Egypt were around for over 3000 years and we all saw how that turned out, didn't we. lol
     
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  10. gringo

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    why is it people fail to understand free speech and twitter have NOTHING to do with each other??

    the government cannot and has not stopped anyone from saying whatever they damn well please

    if a person believes twitter will not allow their views to be expressed..just express your views someplace else

    even LIES...a liar is protected under free speech

    trumps says every day the election was stolen from him..he or anyone else cannot prove he is telling the truth

    under the free speech act, trump can lie and lie and lie , and when proven a liar, suffers no consequences

    if and when truth social ever begins being used, how long before it begins moderating the views of it users??

    do you think a person with the screenname " Trumpsuxlittledicks" will be allowed on truth social??

    when banned, should that person scream their first amendment rights are being trampled??

    desantis may getting a few shots in right now..but he wont last

    the snaggle toothed swamp creatures of florida are pulling his strings and he is looking strong

    everyone likes a puppet show

    but once he grows even a little bit of backbone , the rednecks of florida will jump ship

    he barely beat a gay drug user , a competent opponent will eat him alive
     
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    He supports the idea that people should be allowed to lie on social media platforms while hiding under 1st A protections that do not extend to liars on privately owned platforms. You folks need to stop conflating telling overt lies based on a political agenda with free speech protections.
     
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    Who do you want to tell you that they think you are truthful or lying? Remember it will come down to one person. That person will say what they want and they will have free speech, you will not.
     
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    It is not the job of twitter to defend free speech ..
    or truth social or face book or any other similar platforms ..it is a paid platform ..most people pay by allowing their personal data to be used ..even if they are not aware of it, people pay to use these platforms


    if the government begins to own and run a platform then the government must allow all different views to be shared. And sadly, under the patriot act , the government also began storing personal information

    Just ask Snowden
     
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    Will be filled with lies? LMAO.

    "Mostly peaceful protests." <--- Pro tip - Twitter is already a cesspool of lies.
     
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    Twitter will only take down speech which is illegal in the US. Or at least I hope so.

    DeSantis is a fine leader, though I disagree on the revocation of Disney's special status. He would do well to run for President in 2024.
     
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    You seem to be uneducated on the fact that the Director of the Department of Homeland Security has announced the creation of the "Disinformation Governance Board". Though the Director has refused to identify how the board will regulate what they call "Disinformation". The fact is that the board will be in the business of shutting down narratives that are not officially sanctioned by the Administration.

    A CBS article paints the picture that the board would be used to counter disinformation coming from Russia or being disseminated by human traffickers to the illegal community. The problem with the article is that it does not contain a single quote from the White House or the DHS. The statements made by Psaki and the DHS Director does not reflect that narrative. So, is CBS promoting disinformation about the Disinformation Governance Board?

    No matter who is in power, the Government should not be in the business of censoring free speech.
     
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    you are giving the government way too much credit or blame

    the "Disinformation Governance Board" will not be censoring people or regulating speech..

    in todays world there are just too many platforms to begin to try and regulate or censor

    but my guess is, the new board will respond to lies with the truth

    for example

    a TV personality that calls themselves a new reporter publishes or broadcasts a story that claims the sky is green

    the reporter will not be prevented from publishing that theory and people certainly have a right to believe the sky is green

    a person can do with the information whatever it chooses...some people will believe the sky is green

    what the "Disinformation Governance Board" will do is put out information that says the sky is actually blue

    then it will give proof why the sky is not green, but blue and why it is blue

    and with correct information a person can make a more informed decision about the color if the sky

    the problem is people hate one side so much that the will never admit the sky is blue
     
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    @gringo

    Well, the governance board declaring the sky is blue would prove that it’s best not to give government the authority to declare what’s true. The sky isn’t blue, as so many claim. True story. Google it.
     
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    Ok. You got me.
    Yes. Many years ago in junior high school myself and others were taught the reason the sky appears blue

    it certainly does not appear to be green!!
     
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    Well, it seems that the hard left lost on all of these 'musk-tesla-twitter-disney-deathsantis-gay'
    ANOTHER ESTABLISHMENT ATTACK FAILS: BREAKING: Elon Musk cleared in Tesla tweet-fraud trial. 'A three week trial. A verdict in two hours from an unimpressed jury.'

    'It’s a major vindication for Musk, whose integrity was at stake as well part of a fortune that has established him as one of the world’s richest people.'

    '“Thank goodness, the wisdom of the people has prevailed!” Musk tweeted.'

    Nicholas Porritt, the nitwit 'attorney who represented aggrieved Tesla investors, said he was disappointed after urging the jurors in his closing arguments to rebuke Musk for reckless behavior that threatened to create “anarchy.”'

    I think everyone is tired of the over the top inflammatory rhetoric. Hopefully these investors didn't pay too much for this verbose clown.
     

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