Overturning Roe v Wade: a turning point

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Golem, May 3, 2022.

  1. LiveUninhibited

    LiveUninhibited Well-Known Member

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    Pretty sure we already knew neither party is for small government, just a question of what to spend it on. But the topic is abortion. Allowing states to outlaw abortion is not smaller government. Just the feds stepping back to allow states to deny rights. Unless of course scotus went
     
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  2. ToughTalk

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    I hear ya! States deny me the right to kill. ****ing oppressive man I tell ya.
     
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  3. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Oh God ! :roll:

    My point is made!
     
  4. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I have watched Carlson. But I don't need to watch him to see you desperately trying to change the subject.

    Which might not be so bad for you. Because maybe changing the subject means that deep down you realize that this was a fascist decision by the Supreme court and you just don't want to admit it publicly. I said "maybe"...
     
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  5. Zorro

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    The Court's correct.

    Dems Roe v. Wade “Silver Bullet” Leak Could Backfire
    "People are tired of the left’s response to Covid, monetary policy, foreign policy, taxation, and…well, everything else."
    Too many lies.
    Much too shrill and hateful.

    Voters are looking for a little more maturity, reason and balance.

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    Some Left wing women are threating a sex strike, and everyone pretty much thinks that's a great idea.

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    Yeah, that won't really be a problem.

    With raging inflation, staggered economy and the general disintegration of the country, I'm not surprised that they would rather talk about anything else.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    And Alito and the other fascists in the Supreme court have determined that, even though men have a right to do whatever the hell they want with their reproductive organs, women do not have the same right. Government has determined that it wants to force women to carry children to term even against their will.

    A decision that would have once horrified the once proud Republicans who believed in personal liberties. Not in Trump's Fascist Party, though
     
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  7. Zorro

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    Your post has a lot more spew than sense. Let me make it simple for you:
    • We are a free people with laws that we make through our elected representatives.
    • Our unelected judges don't tell us what the law should be, they tell us what the law is.
    • 15 weeks to get an abortion, is the law in MS. That is more permissive than the European and most of the West's standard of 13 weeks.
    And the election won't turn on this, it will turn on the Economy, Inflation and the deep seated need that the American People have for balanced rational behavior from our elected representatives.

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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I don't know if you're trying to make a point. But those huge porn images make your posts so uncomfortable to the eye that one just forgoes even reading them.

    I guess that's probably your plan, right?
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course, but the end result is still government interference in ones right to bodily autonomy. From my point of view, this level of control is unacceptable. Abortion laws cannot be enforced and have zero benefit to society.
     
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    Women are fully able to 'do whatever they want to their reproductive organs'. An abortion doesn't do anything to those organs, except maybe scar them.

    I think what you are trying to say is that women should have the right to demand other people to pay for their elective surgery.

    Actions have consequences. If someone can't afford to pay for an abortion, maybe they can afford to pay for birth control.
     
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    I may be the epitome of the 'right wing guy', but, in all honesty and fairness, it IS a woman's body, it is her right, and it is a woman's CHOICE, no matter what.

    It's a woman's right in Red States, it's a woman's right in Blue States, and, it has been settled law since 1973! It would be bizarre and cruel to 'change the deal' now....
     
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    Doesn't scar them as much as forcing her to carry a fetus.

    Right wingers look desperate trying to find some way to justify this fascist decision.
     
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    You use that word fascist an awful lot but I noticed you can't seem to find any of it on your own side.

    Tell us again whose party it is that has officially created the ministry of Truth?
     
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    And abstinence is completely free of charge!
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    You are the epitome of a right wing guy. Somebody with whom I will likely disagree 99% of the time. But one who is consistent with their principles.
     
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    What a coincidence! You can't find any on my side either. Hmmm... I wonder what that means...
     
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    So no real reason. Got it.
     
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    Yep, your point has been made to show that you're hypocritical.
     
  19. LiveUninhibited

    LiveUninhibited Well-Known Member

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    Lol, well that's the crux of the issue, whether and when a fetus is a person. When most abortions occur, it clearly is not.
     
  20. FatBack

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    OG what a coincidence you cut my post and did not answer my question again.

    Try it again.... What party actually just established a real ministry of Truth?

    But you go ahead and run away from the question or edit my post again and don't answer
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    I've learned that extremists tend to not answer questions and ignore anything that they know will show them to be wrong. They love using spin and twist anything said.
     
  22. ToughTalk

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    it's a unique individual at conception is the scientific fact. You cannot point to me a trait that defines life that needs to be functional through development. Well you could try but every time someone has given it a shot, it comes off as woefully anti scientific reality and comes with logistical holes.

    At conception it has it's own blood type, it's own DNA, it's sex, height, eye color, hair color and everything else that makes it unique is already decided. It just needs time to develop. You are being bias against it because it doesn't physically look like a baby.

    One has to assume that most abortions are beyond at least 4 weeks. And likely fall somewhere between 6-9 at the minimum. Because you would need to give the woman time to discover that she is pregnant naturally. And then seek out an abortion clinic. That would seem logical. But I would still argue that it's a person, unique unto itself. Dependant on it's mother until it can develop further on in life and become more independent.
     
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    We're going to see the fascists rioting outside of the SC House. Threatening the judges. I believe a conservative leaked the opinion piece just so we will all see how nasty liberals and progressives get when they don't like a decision. We will see how they really care about our institutions. Everyone will see the liars Democrats are.
     
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    That would be very January 6 ish..wouldn't it? Almost like an attack on DEMOCRACY!!!!
     
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    If you support abortion, get one if you want. If you don’t support abortion, don’t get one. I don’t see what business it is of the government or anyone except the woman involved.
     
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