Republicans Will Try To Ban Abortion Nationwide If Supreme Court Overturns Roe V. Wade, Report Revea

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  1. The Mello Guy

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    Republican senators have met to discuss legislation that would ban abortion nationwide, Sen. James Lankford (R-Okla.) told the Post, and Sen. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa) would reportedly likely introduce the bill.

    Anti-abortion groups like the Susan B. Anthony List are working to garner support for the legislation, and have met with Republican contenders for the 2024 presidential nomination about such a ban, including former President Donald Trump.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/alison...ourt-overturns-roe-v-wade-report-reveals/amp/

    Lol of course they will! They only believe in states rights for things they can’t to nationally. All the righties on this forum will go along with it. Don’t trust anyone who says abortion is baby murder then claim they’ll be ok with it being legal in half the nation.
     
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    If they’re going to make this kind of big time move then they should keep it a secret and make that move after the midterms.
     
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    I could see them trying should they win all 3.
     
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    What's wrong with that? I doubt they will be able to but I'm glad to see they are actually going to try.
     
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    Why? Do you think it will be that unpopular?
     
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    Because they’ve been pretending to care about states rights
     
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    In my opinion it's a hit piece designed to help democrats in their midterms. But we will see what langford says.
     
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    What is concerning is how radical some of this legislation is with no allowances fir
    • Life of the mother
    • Rape
    • Age of the mother (10 year olds should not have to become parents)
    • Incest
    • Natural miscarriage
    • And in some cases whether or not the egg has implanted into a uterus
    And it will still not stop abortion - not with countries on both sides of the US border allowing abortion. (yes abortion is legal in parts of Mexico)

    You look at some of the proposed legislation and wonder if these people entirely skipped sex Ed and then you remember the decades long push for “abstinence only” sexual education and… well this is obviously the result

    But it seems the Republicans, who are mostly just listening to their base on this and only hearing validation of their position from like minded people, have yet to realise how big a chunk this could take out of their arse when it turns and bites them. One in three women in America have had an abortion
     
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    The law will be called, “Women of child bearing age are incubators for the state.”

    It’s fun living in a country that wants to take us back to the early 1800s.

    Might as well declare us a theocracy, if the religious get to decide everyone else’s values.
     
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    There are limits.
     
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    I think the biggest thing that will rally democrats going into the midterms is the abortion issue. If this goes into 2024, then the only rallying point bigger than the abortion issue would be Trump. Republicans need to be careful about this, especially if they go too far to the right and try prevent all abortions.
     
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    It is with the miscarriages that will be the most egregious where we will see the legal injustice.
     
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    Here's an idea. How about anyone seeking abortion services at any clinic, hospital, doctor's office, midwifery service or elsewhere has to submit their voting history. Only votes for 18 years will be considered as that is the age of majority in most states in the US.

    R voters/Non-voters- No services are available anywhere in the USA
    100% extradition for trying to get services across the border (why would they go near those icky brown countries anyway?)
    No parole or concurrent sentencing once convicted

    Let them put their money where their mouth is. We already know they've bombarded us for over two years about how "FREE" they are from masks, vaccines and social distancing (a much smaller commitment than taking care of a human life).
     
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    Unlikely. Chances are that all the Democrats motivated by the abortion issue were already in the Democratic pocket anyway.
     
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    They don't have be incubators for anyone. They could, of course, not get pregnant, just like child neglect laws don't require every capable adult to become primary child care providers "for the state" either, but if they choose to become pregnant, or parents, there are certain obligations that come with those choices, not killing the kid being one of the primary ones.
     
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    It depends what that legislation looks like because so far I have heard about state legislation proposals every stop on the spectrum from declaring a fertilised egg is a person through to little more restriction than now under RvW

    Of course this could be damage control

    Some of the wilder legislation being posited (fertilised egg is a person) would put a LOT of voters not just offside but energised into changing sides
     
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    And if they do not choose such as in rape or incest?
     
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    Oh, you want to discuss the minuscule fraction edge cases? I don't know what the specific legislation says about those two edge cases, but I know that it wouldn't apply in something like 99% of cases.
     
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    Yes as counter to the Dems proclaiming they are going to introduce federal pro-abortion legislation, why do you seem surprised? They have to be ready with their own in case the Dems manage to pass something.
     
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    Do not even THINK about betting on that one
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...for-republicans-on-no-exception-abortion-bans

    All it would need is a headline splashed across the internet

    Three children left motherless as woman dies due to abortion ban

    Three children will now have to grow up without a mother as complications of pregnancy, which elsewhere, would have been treated by termination of the pregnancy, was delayed as medical staff feared legal repercussions”

    unfortunately, even today, there are things that go wrong and time can be of the essence

    But then do right wingers really care? Texas already has one of the worst maternal mortality rates in The developed world and I am betting most here do not even realise that
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    Accidents happen. Your opinion that vacuuming a glob of cells, called a zygote, is murder, is a religious opinion.
     
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    Yes I do because they are still women and often children. May I suggest too that you actually research statistics instead of pulling them out of thin air?

    But why no exception for rape? Let us look at the 11 year old in Argentina who was raped by her grandmothers boyfriend. She just wanted “the thing the old man put inside me” removed. Instead she was hospitalised, sedated, lied to until her little body started to develop severe complications requiring her to have an emergency caesarean. The foetus was only 22-23 weeks and did not survive
     
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    There is no such thing as “pro abortion”
     
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    You do know that peoples whose beliefs are based on religion have the same voting strength as anyone else don't you?
     
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    And you know that 62% of women with religious affiliation have abortions don’t you?

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    It has been witnessed that a clinic picketer put down her sign to hustle her daughter into the back door of the clinic to then resume the picketing out the front

    “Because my daughter is different”
     

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