Is it legal in most States to protest outside homes? Shouldn't it be illegal everywhere?

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  1. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    I know what the topic is. I answered it.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A longer drive than most perhaps, but most certainly not "thousands of miles" as was claimed.
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    So what happens when they return home no longer pregnant and without a baby? Would they go to jail for murder? Why not if the state rules abortion murder.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is this concept called jurisdiction.

    A state where abortion is illegal does not have jurisdiction to prosecute for something that occurred outside of that state.
     
  5. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    No, you didn't give your opinion on whether you personally think that it should be illegal. Simple!
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    That's not accurate regarding serious crimes.
    They go to courts of general jurisdiction, and cops can still arrest and hold you, then a conservative jury could crucify you. Why risk it, vote democrat.
     
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    It IS insane. It demonstrates that Judges, not legislators, make more laws to benefit themselves.

    I think protests should ONLY be allowed in front of the homes of government officials, and not the homes of other people. The 1st Amendment states that protests are intended to petition THE GOVERNMENT. So there is no 1st A right to protest in front of the home of a common citizen.
     
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    What about the families of those public servants? Are they not common citizens? How about their neighbors?

    Your position is almost agreeable, except, even government officials are not always performing government duties. They themselves are not "the government". If you want to protest a member of government, you need to do it at their government office or in the public square as they say. When at home they should be "common citizens" - unless they live in a government building like POTUS.
     
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    I said 'special.' You cant sit outside someones house blasting your car stereo at 1am or set up a lawnchair and sunbathe in the middle of the freeway, so those arent legit for protesting either. But if all the normal everyday laws are being followed, protesting should be allowed.
     
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    Absolute nonsense.

    You are doing nothing but fearmongering. You cannot be arrested and tried in one state for something committed in another state where that act is legal. A state does not own their residents.

    You are doing nothing but fearmongering. The left wants people to believe this and get scared, but they will only hint around it because an all-out discussion amongst legal scholars will clearly show this to be erroneous.
     
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    I am assuming this thread is about the GOP trying to emphasize the 1950 Law about protesting in Federal Judge's homes?

    It is technically legal. Most of the time, it is going to be based on local ordinances, the size of the protest, where the protest is "outside the person's home," etc. Depending on the size, a permit to protest may be required, if the protest gets "too out of hand," the police have the authority to disperse a said protest.

    However, under that 1950s law and state law, it is legal to protest in front of a judge's home as long as it is not to influence the judge's on a specific case, at that time. For state and Federal law, this could apply to jurors, witnesses, judges, and justice employees. of that specific case at hand.

    For me, it's a first amendment right. If we are going to start placing arbitrary limits on where to protest and by whom, then we become no better than totalitarian regimes that try to limit free speech as much as possible. I would also argue that protesting in front of a home of a politician, judge, or anyone else, as a last resort or the first resort.
     
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    Just going by the history, that seems to be in full swing at the moment.
     
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    It depends on what the decision is. If RvW is simply overturned, that doesn't necessarily mean it must be state by state, just that it would be the default. Congress is perfectly free to mandate that states allow abortion, or completely outlaw abortion, if RvW is simply overturned. On the flip side, it then only takes another act of congress to reverse it.

    Sometimes scotus goes further though, like they did with gay marriage, in which case they stated iirc that congress cannot outlaw gay marriage due to the equal protection clause. If scotus did something asinine like decide a person exists at conception, they could outlaw abortion no matter what congress or states say and it also would be based on the equal protection clause. Though I doubt they would go that far.
     
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    Yes should be illegal as a form of harassment.
     
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    It is it's called trespassing.
     
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    To protest outside of a home?
     
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    Isn't it a FACT?
     
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    Can you link to your posts about concerns of election workers being harassed, stalked and threatened at their homes, places of employment and places of worship by angry Trump supporters please?

    I can certainly help with your legal questions but I'd like to gauge where your concerns actually lie on this point before responding.
     
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    In a just and sane world, these pieces of human waste would be rounded up and locked up.
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Did I mention the GOP?

    Well it's a federal law, so which State/s?

    To keep people awake 24/7 for the rest of time?

    WTF? So it's either the FIRST resort or the LAST resort?
     
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    What about yelling in protest outside a home? Do you think that should be perfectly legal?
     
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    It certainly seems insane the the Supreme Court has GREEN LIT protesting outside of homes on more than one occasion!
     
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    No, you didn't give your opinion on whether you personally think that it should be illegal. Simple!
     
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    Do you believe that your response answered my question?
     
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    Do you think that a protest should have to meet the "assault" definition before it should be considered illegal? Because I'm not sure these Roe v Wade protesters have threatened the judges.
     

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