Russia Declares War on Ukraine<<MOD WARNING>>

~ If it comes down to it I believe that India would help Taiwan defend against China.

 

The trouble is it's part of Ukraine and they'll want it back. I don't see peace in Mariupol for a long time.

 

This is the fallacy of the false dilemma - Assad or ISIS.
Syria is the forerunning of Ukraine, like Spain was the forerunner to WW2.
Putin saw the Arab revolutions overthrow many old venerable authoritarian states - like his own Russian one.
He back Assad for obvious reasons - Syria was an ally, and offered Russia a port and a base in the Middle East.
His tactic was to employ the 'Butcher of Syria', the general now floundering in Ukraine. Using 'dumb bombs' in
civilian areas, this general just flattened whole cities, just as he had done in Grozy, the city the UN said was the
'most destroyed city on earth.'
This is the fate of many Ukrainian cities - it's the dirty way Russians always fight. But Putin isn't winning this
time around - he's just creating enemies in both Ukraine and the Western world. And no, there's no Nazis.

 

Ukraine wants to help the US destroy Russia.

 

Russia should not allow the appearance of US missile bases on the territory of Ukraine, which are capable of destroying the Russian response potential before launch.
If the United States does not want to resolve this issue through peaceful negotiations, then Russia will resolve this issue by military force.
There is no other way out.

 

In his campaign speeches, Zelensky set himself the main task of ending the war. But he continued to help the United States prepare an attack on Russia. This forced Russia to attack Ukraine.

 

You are the one living in fallacyland ... Those were the two sides of the war .. and the Islamic State included Al Qaeda .. so not just ISIS.

Regardless .. what was the third choice that you claim exists ? Who was this third actor in the war .. fighting Assad - that was going to take over the town.

and answer the question you avoided.. would you rather wake up under the Islamic State .. or under Assad's Syria prior to the war ? Something which wasn't a "Choice" for every city in Syria san's Demascus for over 3 years.

Your position is hopelessly lost .. Ukraine is not anywhere close to the atrocity of Syria .. how many civilians dead so far in Ukraine Pooh ?

Under 3000 last I checked .. how many civilians dead in the war in Syria ? 350,000 "Documented" .. the actual number is thought to be much higher .. thats not one .. but 2 orders of magnitude .. or for those who don't know log scale 100 Times difference ..

Let me know when we hit 100,000 civilians dead in Ukraine .. at which point we will be 20% of the way there. Your argument is ridiculously false.

now tell me about this Third force in the war in Syria ? .. this other choice of who would take over Syria in the war.

 

~ Oh NO ..! USA can't attack Russia. Who will the Democrats blame for all their disasters .. ? '

 

Yeah, dropping what we now call 'dumb bombs' on Syrian cities.
Israel is condemned for dropping smart bombs on Hamas, Russia does dumb bombs on Syrian general public.
Won't work this time around.
The Syrian revolution wasn't about ISIS or Al Quaeda - it was about a democratic Syria, maybe like Iraq today.

 

The United States has abandoned the principle of peaceful coexistence.
If the state refuses such a principle, then it has begun to prepare for aggression. War became inevitable.

 

Well actually, Russia won't resolve this issue - the West will.
Putin's march on Ukraine began with seeing Gaddafi overthrown and murdered. He wasn't going to allow Assad to go
the same way through the Arab Spring. Russia's 'success' (via lots of dumb bombs on civilians) emboldened to dream
of reconquering the old Soviet Union. Putin does not recognize Ukraine as being a sovereign nation, just as he doesn't
recognize the Baltic states as being real nations. We could all see where this was heading, hence the headlong rush of
Finland and Sweden to join NATO.

 

Thats a complete falsehood .. The war in Syria the "Revolution" was all about the Islamic State .. and answer the question you are desperately avoiding.. who was this third force in the war in Syria . tthe one fighting for "Democracy - Freedom"

And who would you rather live under the Islamic State .. Assad .. and since there was some fantasy force 3 that was holding territory .. at last one major city .. which one was that you would be living during the 3 years of the new Islamic State.

Your position is gonna be crucified .. got yourself into a big sand trap this round.

 

The problem with these claims by Zelenskey is that Kyiv's 'gains' when they 'chase out' the Russian invader, usually come a day or two after the Russians announce they are withdrawing from that region! That was very obvious when the Russians announced they were withdrawing from Kyiv. A couple of days later the heroic Ukraine forces were making enormous gains as, once again, they chased the invader out of the area. They are now doing the same in Karkiv!
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To drive an invader out you need to fire at him ..... if he is leaving anyway that would be a complete waste of ammunition ..... but the shells have to land somewhere! May I suggest they are most probably landing ON and AMONG the civilians left AFTER the Russians have left?

So the deaths in these towns and village sand the damage, are more than likely caused by Ukraine forces chasing the Russians, than the withdrawing Russian forces.?

 

The Arab Spring in Syria wasn't run by ISIS. Nor was ISIS, Al Quaeda, the Muslim Brotherhood, Islamic Jihad
or any other Muslim rat nest involved in creating the revolution - all sought influence of course, but no-one
planned this revolution - it just came out of nowhere.

 

Given that Vlad the Inept's military force so far has been as flaccid and impotent as Vlad himself after chemo, I'm not that worried at this point.

 

~ This may very well be correct. However with the jackass administration currently in the White House I am not sure the USA will be included in "the West " ...

 

By refusing to negotiate equal security, you are forcing Russia to use nuclear weapons.

 

In any case, there will be no US missile bases in Ukraine. Russia will not lose until it has used up all of its nuclear warheads.

 

Russia has already lost a lot, and the rate of loss will only increase over time.

 

Thats preposterous made up nonsense -- and irrelevant to the questions you are avoiding. Who was this third force fighting Assad.. that you are desperately trying to claim with the above ridiculous nonsense.

Arab Spring has little to do with the rise of the Islamic State .. other than being a muslim movement that sparked some protests. What started out as peaceful movement which included moderates .. In Syria the hardline extremists quickly took over .. were threatening Christians to join the movement or leave the country .. the protests turned violent .. things ramped up .. and foreign actors got involved .. Qatar and Brother El Saud and Turkey - flowing arms into the rebel groups .. of which there were many .. Al Nusra and Islamic Front being the two big ones.. and the insurgency begain .. in late 2011 .. 6 months in the Defense Intelligence Agency tells us was all Al Qaeda and Spawn running the show .. then the foreign fighters poured in .. along with a coalition of 40 nations providing arms and support. In less than 2 years .. a new State was Declared .. the Holy Jihad a smasing success.

So .. once again .. to the same question you refuse to answer .. you claim there was this third force "Fighting For Democracy" .. who is this third force .. and what city in Syria would you have lived .. to be under their benevolent care.

This is the third time you have avoided supporting this outlandish nonsense claim .. where is this fantasy third option mate .. this third force actually fighting Assad .. "Arab Spring" .. is that it .. is this the magical 3rd force .. .. if not then who .. and which city did they hold that you would hapily be living in .. rather than in horrible Kiev or Demascus .... this lovely paradise .in Syria .. please show me this place that you suggest existed.

 

This means that the whole world will soon become Washington's barnyard.
Do you want to get livestock rights?

 

Couple of minor points. There was a tug of war over an oil pipeline that played a role in Syria becoming a failed state.

The American program to put booze in gas drove up global grain prices, which was a serious problem in poor Middleast countries. It was one of the causes of the Arab Spring.

 

I think the biggest threat to Sweden and Finland is Russia refuse to dendenazify these countries:

 

Having Putin offer to 'De-Nazify' you country is like having your vet offer to de-flea your dog (with napalm)!

 

Yes ..The western Consortia which included a Qatar Gas line - was rebuffed by Assad in favor of Russia-Iran. One of the purposes for encouraging the war to keep the region destabilized .. nothing can be built .. same objective in Afghanistan.. corridor to the "new silk road"

but .. what ever the reason ... turned out to be a major cluster fk .. of which hell has yet to be paid .. no one wants to touch with 10 foot pole .. and a big elephant in room .. as its on the list .. war crimes - crimea against humanity .. en mass .. major violations of international law but by a group of very powerful nations .. all who share in the blame.. US and Brother El Saud leading the show .. 2 wars we were alied with Al Qaeda over last decade .. Syria and Yemen .. though involvement in Yemen was minor .. even for that we got a complicity in war crimes rap.. Syria .. much different story --- Hell to be paid.. 350,000 civilians killed "Documented" the UN stating the actual figure is much higher.

less than 3000 dead civilians in Ukraine so far .. and we want to put Putin a war criminal .. .. have to come up with a new name for the criminality of Biden .. his crimes 100 x worse. . just in Syria .. never mind Yemen - Libya - Afghanistan...