Buffalo shooting: Ten dead in attack at New York state supermarket

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You do realize that more than 60% of conservatives do not condone what they did and believe they should have gotten punishment?
    The issue they complain about is that many of the defendants got unfair treatment (discrimination with bail denied and excessive punishment, with the additional insult of many individual defendants being forced to pay restitution when there was no evidence those individuals caused damage).

    Well, I don't want to change the topic in this thread, but whatever your information source is it's been feeding you garbage.

    I honestly thought you were talking about the Left right there, for a moment, until I realized which poster you were.


    Will you admit you were wrong on this forum if it turns out the guy was on the Left and trying to commit an atrocity so everyone would blame the other side?

    Because multiple things about this story seem like a very stereotypical version of what someone on the Left would imagine a gun-loving racist killer on the Right would do.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Furthermore I bet the perpetrator was on anti-depressants, which have been known to be associated with these type of incidents since they blunt any moral feelings.
    The same anti-depressants that are designed to make people feel like nothing is wrong, also can make that person feel like nothing is wrong with their thoughts and impulses.
     
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    Even though it is a legitimate news story, it can still be construed as a “man bites dog” scenario if they make it the centerpiece of their news.
    Obviously the media needs a new non economic story to take attention off Biden’s failures as the primaries approach.
     
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    No matter what extremest or non extremist opinions you have, the 2nd Amendment does not infer or state murder is a right. In fact, the 2nd Amendment does not even address tyranny as you claim.

    Even if we assume the 2A was written to address tyranny by our government specifically and excludes all other threats to a free state, by definition then any killing done to defend the free state is not murder. I used the term “murder” for a reason, knowing progressives do not understand that words mean things and would erroneously conflate murder with killing.

    In your myopic world, if we apply your flawed logic to reality, then killing of those who wished to kill to preserve slavery was murder and should not have occurred. Killing of those who wished to preserve the Third Reich was murder. US service members killing Imperial Japanese who had wreaked havoc across the Pacific (including Hawaii) and China was murder.

    What far right extremists think is no more relevant to the actual text of the Bill of Rights than your unsubstantiated opinion. You are birds of a feather.

    Murder is unlawful killing. The supreme law of the land clearly states killing in defense of a free state is not murder.

    Now read the above quote again and tell us how murder (unlawful killing) is a right afforded by the 2nd Amendment.

    I know. Free speech often reveals realities that conflict with feelings. Many value feelings over personal and societal freedoms. I don’t. I’ve seen too many bad decisions made on emotion.
     
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    As a side note, I'm guessing this was in one of the more ghetto areas of Buffalo. The market had an armed security guard. What kind of grocery store needs armed security? I've never been in a grocery store that had armed guards. Ever.
     
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    Where I got my undergraduate degree...a lifetime ago.

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    Your right, the Times probably never reported on the 17 people shot in Milwaukee.
     
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    No, the second amendment doesn't condone murder. He exercised his second amendment right when he acquired the gun, not when he used it to kill people.
     
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    10 reported dead from gunshot.

    Once again, our gun laws and their level of enforcement were unable to keep this tragedy from happening.

    On average, using 2020 data, a person in the United States of America dies of gunshot every 12 minutes. Every 12 minutes, 24/7/365.

    Guns.

    Again.

    Regards, stay safe 'n well . . . 'n un-shot.
     
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    I was thinking of going there for my doctorate. It seems like a nice school.
     
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    Now you're starting to understand the problem!

    All I've done is parroted the same brain-dead talking points that have been repeated ad nauseam on these boards. So what is the solution?
     
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    once again our car laws have done nothing to prevent things like this, https://www.kare11.com/article/news...river/89-0f6a1553-32f6-42ba-bbc8-bb835e693ac0 https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...amming-attacks-66-us-since-may-27/5397700002/ and at this level of enforcement they were unable to keep tragedies like this from happening.

    cars.
    again.
    that's how you sound.
     
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    Crazy people need to be identified in their youth and provided with treatment. I have understood the problem longer than you have been alive.
     
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    Ok. So you are supporting candidates that seek to expand health care, specifically mental health care? Because you can't just throw that out there and not do anything with it and expect change. Repubs don't seem to have a great track record when it comes to doing preventative stuff like what you just posted.

    And BTW: labeling them "crazy" at that stage doesn't really promote your intended goal.
     
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    While all the apologists here are trying to deflect lets be real for once hey, this is an issue ongoing for centuries ever since whites came to power.

    No other culture has more hatred for a persons skin colour than white folk. Lets discuss the REAL issues. The HARDTALK, why do whites have such evil intentions towards black ppl?
     
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    Usa military support of white supremacists in ukraine has only given confidence to domestic racist serial killers who KNOW they will be treated carefully by usa state authorities given the governments stance towards Azov military in ukraine.
     
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    Driving into protestors and mass killing of black people - i see a common link among perpetrators here
     
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    The government is basically giving them the green light since it is pouring millions if not billions into a white supremacist militia in eastern europe right now.
     
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    Yes, it looks like some black guys did a lot of that, plus the white guy in Charlottesville. Still, blacks kill waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more people than whites do, and they’re still 4 x more likely to kill each other.
     
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    white supremacy guys killing other whites. Only you could come to such a hilarious conclusion.
     
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    Why am I not surprised?
     
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    Far more black people are killed by black people than by white people. Why do black people have such evil intentions towards black people"
     
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    This is just sillytalk not HARDTALK. Avoid the real question because it opens up a dilemma in your culture, the dilemma of why white folk have this urge to go on mass rampages killing black folk.
     

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