Is there a right to abortion, and if so, where does the right come from?

Yup, plainly, IF you believe that God spoke to us in the Bible (see your Post #460, etc.).

 

Nope, YOUR interpretation.

 

The DOI is written by man for man stating what they wanted. And they set up a gov't to enact and enforce those words. A gov't from man.
So it's nothing more than a form of a contract. And it's not absolute, nor explicit.

I didn't write those words of the DOI, so I didn't exclude women. The writers of the DOI did if your continue to claim the words are explicit. And there are black men, so they are included in DOI words. The writers that owned black men didn't live by their own words.

This discussion isn't taking a life of an innocent human being.
It is a future human being person by all definition of words defining person, human being, or similar.
Until you can change definitions or laws to point to an exact time a fetus becomes a person, which currently is at birth, you are making false statements.

 

Not even close to what dems attempt.

 

ROTFLMAO. You're argument is so weak, you have to deflect to a completely different topic.

If you can't understand fact, I can't help you. There are 2.6% abortions done because of medical reasons only.

 

Your god? don't think they care about right. I don't have a firm starting point from which to teach you about God.

 

Were it weak you could have rebutted it but as it stands you have not and "a medical reason" doesn't necessarily mean it order to save the life of the mother.

 

So according to you rights do not apply to women and only women can be aborted..................

You are never a "future human being" you are a human being from conception and we hold these truths to be self evident ALL people are created and endowed with the right to life. This isn't about "the law". It is about our basic human rights which are not subject to the government interpretation and whims.

 

So why is it the responsiblity of taxpayers to pay for it?

Depends on what it is being spent on again BC is CHEAP and widely available why does the cost have to be shifted from the person wanting to use it to the taxpayer? My heart medication keeps me out of the hospital where the government has to pay the cost, should it be totally free along with my other medications or should I be responsible for paying for it?

AGAIN why do those on the pro-abortion side continue to absolve women of all responsibilty are women helpless little beings that all must be taken care of?

And BTW under Medicaid BC IS free.

 

You expound on and on and on regarding a rationale for a woman's right to terminate her pregnancy. But the answer is simplicity incarnate: doctor's orders !! Some might revere so-called "men of the cloth" as the ultimate arbiters but no, for that is anachronistic and rife with contention. Here in modern times we consider the men and women of the medical profession, specifically MD's, to be the sagest of the sage. And doctors hold that if pregnancy becomes the source of severe travail/anxiety to a woman then she should have the option to terminate, plain and incredibly simple -- Grace at its best.

 

Didn't say it was.
Didn't say it was
We don't
Now answer the question please.

 

So you claim the pregnant woman possibly dying during the pregnancy or delivery of a birth is NOT a 'medical reason;? Wow.

 

LOL.

Actual statistics is considered a weak argument according to you. You are not being serious.

 

NO. You claimed the DOI is explicit. I did NOT.

According to your claim that the DOI is explicit. They chose the word men and not people, or men and women. You think the words written are explicit. Perhaps you don't know the meaning of explicit?

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Definition of explicit


1a : fully revealed or expressed without vagueness, implication, or ambiguity : leaving no question as to meaning or intent

 

I will admit that maybe I missed something along the way (I don't always have time to read each and every post), but it seems to me that the issue of abortion being legal is a separate one from whether or not a woman has to pay for her abortion on her own. I will leave insurance out of that equation, as that is a private entity, and they should have the option to include that as much as any private individual can choose to help a woman pay for it.

Those who do pay for their own BC still have times when the BC fails and they get pregnant, and want an abortion. So let me step through this. Is it your claim then that if they take the responsibility to prevent a pregnancy that they are allowed an abortion because they took that responsibility?

 

Fetus =/= child.

 

Women are not second-class citizens.

 

As is going to church.

 

Slut shaming?

 

I wouldn't know. I'm agnostic...

 

It's amazing how many wives they keep trying to apply that logic to.

 

Your disrespect for women is noted.

 

So, your agnosticism renders you incapable of deciding whether or not attending church is a matter of convenience? Hohhhh-Kayyyyy...

 

So, you figure it's your right to get on an airplane and give people covid?

 

Fetus =/= baby.