At least 10 dead in mass shooting at Buffalo supermarket

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  1. Zorro

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    Buffalo Mass Shooter's Manifesto Complicates Ukraine War Narrative
    "The Buffalo mass shooter shares a similar iconography with the Ukrainian Neo-Nazi Azov Battalion."

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    "If you had told me ten years ago that the bipartisan foreign policy of the American elite would be to risk nuclear war with Russia so Ukrainian neo-Nazis could control the Donbas, I would have thought: very unlikely."

    "The suspected Buffalo shooter’s manifesto features the Black Sun symbol used by the Azov Battalion in Ukraine."

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    Azov in Ukraine.



     
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  2. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    I prefer to not get ambushed, but I'd want a bulletproof vest above all if I was.
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    If you're attacked on the street it's far more akin to being sniped at from a distance as a battlefield situation, and what good is your gun then?
     
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  3. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    You act as if the number of guns can never even be reduced even slightly. Other nations have been heavily armed and are disarmed today, it can be done.
     
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    Move to one of them. They already share your values. At least half of America does not and will react very poorly if you attempt to force your values upon them using government force.
     
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    Well if I’m getting sniped by Chris Kyle probably not much good.

    Fortunately for me I’m far more likely to get shot at by Daquan than I am Chris Kyle. And Daquan holds his gun sideways. So I’d rather have my gun.
     
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    You would do about as well with that as you would with your plan for the government to force people to take a vaccine.
     
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    America will not be disarmed without violent armed conflict forcing them to do so.
     
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    Yeah it's suspicious. Although my guess was that it actually is his manifesto, but he copied and pasted to make it.
     
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    If you want to know what's really curious, the Biden Administration spent SIX MONTHS workshopping "Ultra-MAGA." They actually thought this was a good put down.

    "Biden’s attempt to appropriate the “MAGA” brand as a political attack was hardly accidental. It arose from a six-month research project to find the best way to target Republicans, helmed by Biden adviser Anita Dunn and by the Center for American Progress Action Fund, a liberal group.

    The polling and focus group research by Hart Research and the Global Strategy Group found that “MAGA” was already viewed negatively by voters — more negatively than other phrases like “Trump Republicans.”"
     
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    I have yet to understand why anyone would hold a gun that way
     
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    There are roughly 330 million American men, women and children in the US who own about 400 million firearms so I don't think you'll find any other country that has or has had as many firearms per person as the US.

    Additionally, there is no other country of which I am aware that has anything like our 2nd Amendment enshrined it its constitution so I don't think that Americans are going to part with their firearms any more readily than they did their alcohol during Prohibition or their illegal drugs, today.

    If we have learned nothing else from those two failed crusades it is that human behavior cannot be changed by manipulating inanimate objects.

    Please spell out the details of exactly how you propose to disarm Americans.

    Thanks,
     
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    I'm pointing out that banning guns won't solve anything. Are you trying to turn the U.S. into a third world country? That's what you'll have if you're u disarm the law abiding citizens.
     
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    Gun free zones obviously don't work. But, keep thinking they do.
     
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    I agree with your overall assessment on the amount of weapons, specifically the guns, and the relation to the 2nd amendment. But I seriously doubt adding more guns would change people's hatred, whether right, wrong or indifferent.

    These insane shootings will continue and it is time for all to realize it needs to stop. While it's doubtful at this time we are going to get a consensus for this issue, it is time we accept it is a problem.
     
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    Azov is a Ukrainian neo-Nazi unit, and hardly a representative of the whole country.

    As for charges, - he might face federal charges which will put death penalty on the table.
     
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    But, they killed 800,000 people mostly with machetes. That kills the fewer guns = less murder argument.
     
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    No, 18 year olds can’t.
    No, just no. I have no idea what cartoon inspired that quote but you're a long way from any reality.
     
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    It takes practice and skill to drive a car. Should we stop teaching people how to drive because you think it takes too much training?

    You people aren't interested in saving lives. You're only interested in banning guns.
     
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    It won't because there's no evidence to suggest any of us would be stupid enough to give away our only source of protection.
     
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    That isn't evidence. It is a photo that could be anything.
     
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    That's because they believe banning guns will save lives.

    We do have more guns than any other nation and more gun deaths per capita by an order of magnitude or more, than most other nations. This cannot be denied.
     
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    So what's your point? Are you claiming it was justified because it was just "a direct response"? Please be clear.

    Well, this one DID have guns involved. We can't outlaw SUVs. But we CAN restrict guns. So I have no idea what relevance you think your post has.
     
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    Abortion doesn't kill people.
     

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