At least 10 dead in mass shooting at Buffalo supermarket

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  1. Buri

    Buri Well-Known Member

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    I'm glad you're happy with that, but personally a edc has no business being purchased with price in mind. Taurus has a less than stellar reputation for a very good reason and the G26 will live forever while outshining most competitors. but if you shoot it well and it's not malfunctioning, there really is no loss.
     
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    Buri Well-Known Member

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    13% of the population yet 54% of ALL MURDERS.
    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/topic-pages/tables/table-43

    white supremacists got NOTHING on 54% of all murders.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The purpose of calling this shooter, and too many others, a white supremacist is to broadcast the fact that these type of terrorists are a clear, major problem. I have seen nothing here, or anywhere else, about anyone wanting to "making whites look bad." That sounds like paranoia to me.

    As other shooters before him, this one identified himself as a white supremacist. The jackboot fits, sorry.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wow.

    Think that through, please. Not everyone wants to own a gun. Most people don't even like them, are not comfortable around guns. If we were all armed, do you really think that would be a good thing? Seriously?

    And how tough can NY's gun laws be if this nut job was able to purchase one legally?
     
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    In the last 10 years, how many mass shootings have been perpetrated by 'white supremacists'?
    How does this number demonstrate a 'clear, major problem/?
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bullshit. What is much more likely is that incidents that currently have people shouting and screaming at each other, or throwing punches, will turn into deadly shootings instead.

    The right doesn't seem to have thought this through. You cannot enforce civility by making everyone a threat.
     
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    When I went into the US Army over 50 years ago, I took an oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies; foreign and domestic.
    The 2nd Amendment is every bit as much of a Right as the 1st, 4th and other less well known ones.

    I fully support the entire constitution not just because of the oath I took but because I have repeatedly seen the truth behind the quote that goes something like: "Those who would surrender freedoms for security deserve neither."

    Briefly put, if gun control and licensing schemes worked, how was the Buffalo killer able to do what he did in a state with the strictest gun laws in the country?
    Also, there are over 50 countries in the world(1) with nothing like our 2nd Amendment and far stricter gun laws but they all have higher homicide rates than the US.

    If stricter gun control and licensing worked, they would work everywhere, not just in the handful of cherry picked European countries that all have more accessible and affordable mental health care.

    I'm afraid that we'll just have agree to disagree.



    (1) "Intentional homicides (per 100,000 people) - Country Ranking"
    https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/indicators/VC.IHR.PSRC.P5/rankings
     
  8. Lil Mike

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    Well I'll give you props for actually saying that Azov is neo-Nazi. That identification has about vanished since February.
     
  9. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, my purpose was to point out something rude that you do often, in the (probably vain) hope that you'll stop doing it.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good point. He wouldn't have wanted them to be able to shoot back.
     
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    Well it's not very helpful that you didn't mention that particular issue from the past where I allegedly committed my faux pas so I still don't know what your talking about, however I can only assume it was a doozy.

    Sorry you got your feelings hurt.
     
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    Well let me put it this way: they're "tough" enough that most observers expect one of them is about to be ruled unconstitutional infringement on the right of the people to keep and bear arms by SCOTUS. New York (along with California) is routinely touted by gun control group as one of the model states that others should be emulating.
     
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    He talked specifically about how New York's gun laws would ensure that most of his intended victims were unarmed.
     
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    Prove that more people are kill by mass shootings by whites than mass shootings by blacks and do not fallaciously exclude drive by or gang shootings which kill mass people including innocent people. And I'll own white supremist mass shooters as much as you own black mass shooters.......................which is nil.
     
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    FYI, background checks are done when purchasing hand guns, at least in most states.
     
  17. Buri

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    I don't care what side anyone is on, if any, but that false flag thing is a conspiracy theorists' fap sock.
     
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    Black Americans have always needed guns far more than white Americans.
    Constitution carry just in our urban hell hole cities would be a first step toward saving and reviving our cities and the black American community and culture.
     
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    Your clearly wrong. Whenever strict gun control is imposed violent crime especially gun crime soars.
    So, my gentle honorable friend from the other side -- would you shout or scream at someone you thought might be carrying a hand gun?

    An armed society is a very polite society.
     
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    Re:
    That's because most everyone wants a cheap-and-easy, feel-good-do-nothing pseudo solution while only a few people are willing to pay the price for more affordable and accessible mental health care.

    My concern is that even if firearms were unavailable, a determined killer will resort to any one of many much deadlier bombs, Molotov Cocktails, Bio - Chem weapons etc.

    That's why I feel that it's more important to treat the potential killer rather than just one class of weaponry he may chose.

    Thanks,
     
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    He's clearly demented, hates Fox News, sees himself as Left Authoritarian and Green. His emblems have some common elements with the Azov Battalions. He also seems to have essentially cut and paste the manifesto from the New Zealand Mass Shooter.

    And then his racial replacement views closely track the Left's ridiculous "Demographics is Destiny" crap that they have been pushing for a couple decades that was supposed to turn TX, AZ, and FL blue. Of course it's failed as American Society splits by class not race. But, the Left's ideology of race based hate can obviously trigger a certain percentage of the criminally insane.
     
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    Firearms not being available or taken away is a joke. Sorry but that scenario is just not possible.

    Again about the mental health issue, I'm all aboard, but someone needs to take the reigns, or we continue this nonsense of mass shootings.
     
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    And yet when Black kill whites, Latinos, Asians and other blacks the mic and presses go silent ;)
     
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    It's essentially a cut and paste with some light revisions from the manifesto of a crazed mass killer in New Zealand.
     
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    How could he have ever possibly gotten away with something like this:
     

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