Can people really be non-binary?

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Can people really be non-binary?

  1. no

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  2. yes

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  1. Polydectes

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    There's no such thing as non-binary people.
     
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    How anyone in this day and age not understand the very basics of brain chemistry, is difficult for me to comprehend.
     
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    Except when you aren’t option a or b.
     
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    There is no such option.
     
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    Brain chemistry has nothing to do with being trans.

    There aren't structural or chemical differences in the different sexes brains. That was a myth.
     
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    Yes it does and no, Not really. New science is constant.
     
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    Cherry picked science perhaps.
     
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    All science is constant. Lol. The entire job of a scientist is proving other scientists wrong. Some are very good at their job.
     
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    so the science debunking different brain chemistry and different brain structure is not science explain why it's not science and it has to be more than it doesn't agree with you.
    Yeah the idea that there is different brain structure based on sex outside of a size difference that seems to follow the size difference between the sexes has been debunked.

    If you're suggesting trans women have brains that are 11% smaller and they're bringing cavity than you I would have to show examples of that.
     
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    So a trans person can't express wearing the other sex clothes?
    Can't express characteristics, be it feminine or masculine of the other sex.

    Get out of here.

    You're just as fake a gay person as a trans is as fake as trans person.

    bi, by definition means the options are 2. NO more, NO less.
    Bicycle. 2 wheels.
    There's no way all life, humans included is limited to just 2 genders.

    I won't lecture on anything. I care less how fake your gayness is based on your treatment of other LGBTQ people. Gays are just as fake as the rest.

    If you need some discussion with one who is trans on this website, try @Krane56.
    I will take his word about trans people over some fake gay person.
     
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    I don't understand it. But I don't dismiss it.
    As this person who claims to be gay does. While dissing the rest of the LGBTQ people.
    I listen to those who claim to be who they are. There's no right or wrong. There's understanding and there's being afraid of the unknown.
     
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    There's no such thing as gay people.
    This game is easy, isn't it.
     
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    There aren't structural or chemical differences in the difference between gay or straight either. Based on your lack of evidence you've provided.

    Prove you are gay.
     
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    We aren't talking about trans people we are talking about non binary.

    Interesting how you had to move those goal posts.
     
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    No there is not.
    Why?
     
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    Whatever game you are playing is rather meaningless.

    I explained what a gay person was. You cannot explain what's non binary person is.
     
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    Trans are non binary. They don't fit the definition of binary.

    Hermaphrodites are non binary. They have the sex organs of both sexes,

    Interesting how you deny human life differences.

    But why not give your definition of binary. And see if it matches the real definition. Of ONLY 2 options.
     
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    Non binary: neither of the two supposed binary choices.

    Easy!
     
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    you can't begin to quantify it. Why shouldn't it be dismissed?
    How is it a dis to any lesbian gay bisexual or transgender to request definition to non binary?
    So if I told you I was a leprechaun, you would believe leprechauns exist? There is no right or wrong. Are you afraid of leprechauns?
     
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    You gave your opinion of a gay person. I care less of your opinion.
    Whatever game you play of your own words is rather meaningless.

    ...
    Non-binary[a] or genderqueer is an umbrella term for gender identities that are not solely male or female‍—‌identities that are outside the gender binary.[2][3] Non-binary identities fall under the transgender umbrella, since non-binary people typically identify with a gender that is different from their assigned sex,[3] though some non-binary individuals do not consider themselves transgender.[4]

    Non-binary people may identify as an intermediate or separate third gender,[5] identify with more than one gender,[6][7] no gender (agender), or have a fluctuating gender identity (genderfluid).[8] Gender identity is separate from sexual or romantic orientation,[9] and non-binary people have a variety of sexual orientations, just as cisgender people do.[10] Being non-binary is also not the same as being intersex; most intersex people identify as either male or female.[11]

    Non-binary people as a group vary in their gender expressions, and some may reject gender "identities" altogether.[12] Some non-binary people are medically treated for gender dysphoria with surgery or hormones, as trans men and trans women often are.[13]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-binary_gender
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    I don't have to explain non binary. There's a whole class of people that are classified as non binary. Androgenous for example


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    Theandrogyny it is a characteristic possessed by organisms that have both male and female traits. In the case of humans, it would be people who either do not have a defined sex, or do not clearly appear to belong to the gender with which they were born.

    The term first appeared in Plato's "The Banquet." In this work, the philosopher spoke of the myth of androgynes, beings that had a body that was half a woman and half a man. From this moment on, and throughout history, androgyny has been present in most cultures.
    https://warbletoncouncil.org/androginia-6364
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    Like you can't quantify being gay, why shouldn't it be dismissed? Many people do dismiss it. In fact some claim gay men are actually pedophiles. Are you a pedophile?


    If you need a definition of non binary, just go to the web and do a search. If there's such a thing as gay attraction, there's certainly such a thing as non binary.

    If you told me you were gay or a leprechaun, why should anyone believe any of it?
    If you can't give actual scientific evidence now that you are gay, you can claim you're a leprechaun.
    And if 5% of the population claim they are a leprechaun, then studies would be taking place to see if there's a legit reason why so many make said claim.
     
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    Trans people are binary
    Yes they do. Multiple binaries in fact. The binary between lgbt and straight. The binary of cis and trans. And the sexual binary.
    Hermaphrodites are binary there are still only two sexes.
    I'm just not pretending binaries are non binary.
    Relating to, composed of our existing as two things. Ex: trans non trans, male or female. LGBT or straight. There are loads of binaries.
    I suppose you are the grand wizard of what words mean?
     
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    no they are not

    you can't have multiple binaries. By definition, binary =2. lgbt by definition means it's more than 2 options. The 2 options by most people is full male and full female. And hetero for each.

    No, we only define at this time 2 sexes. But obviously you can't define a hermaphrodite as either of those 2 sexes. They are something inbetween. IE a 3rd option, at a minimum. They are neither female nor male. But a combination of those 2 we currently define. Again, a 3rd or more option.

    You aren't pretending binaries are non binary. Just like many don't pretend gays are not gay or if they really believe they are, they're actually pedophiles.
    So you're either not gay or you're a pedophile to many. Which of the binary options are you?

    Those are just 2 words describing many options. So the options are non binary. And then there's a slew of gray between those several non binary options you listed.

    I am the grand wizard of using definitions of words that are defined in dictionaries.
    I try not to make up my own.
    It muddies a conversation when people make up their own definitions.
     
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    No I have the meaning of it.
    It wasn't an opinion that's common usage of the word.

    You're playing the "words don't mean what they mean" game. You have to do that because your are wrong.

    Male and female are sexes not identities. These sexes are determined by anatomy. Whether you identify with the sex you are or not is a binary.

    There is nothing else. It's male or female that's it.
    right it's a scam to be part of the LGBT without really being different.

    All it is, is saying different words.
    They can identify as an intergalactic spider monkey for all I care that's nothing sand it means nothing.
    Agreed intersex is a rare birth defect.
    More meaningless word salad.

    Just because you find brainless drivel on the internet doesn't mean it's not brainless.

    No you don't it's fake no matter what you do.
    There's no such class.
     
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    Trans and Hermaphrodites are just as defined as gay.

    I play the definition of words game.
    Provide definitions to your words. Not your own opinion.

    You claim to be male. And per most definitions in todays world, anatomically you are a male.
    But you like sex with other males. So, in reality, you are a female with male genitals. Because you are attracted to others with male genitals.
    You are non binary.
     
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