Al Jazeera reporter killed during Israeli raid in West Bank

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  1. Giftedone

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    Sure it is .. but who cares what the name of the spook organization is Mossad "IDF" .. one of them did it .. and that his where you not only went wrong .. but admitted your error .. demonstrable falsehood from your own mouth supported by your own links.. which is kinda priceless.

    dickering over the name of the Israeli institution been targeting, persecuting, and killiing journalists .. in desperate attempt to deflect and deny .. crying "Wrong wrong wrong" .. to what you have previously admitted is true ... and everyone with eyes knows is true .. Israel being kiling journalists .. linked to 19 by your own count .. now you try to pretend you did not say these things .. crying "Everything is wrong"

    Need to get a-hold of a coherent argument mate .. something other than mind bending false accusations .. refuting yourself in the process .. which albeit is kind of priceless . perhaps better saved for the outside the adult room..
     
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    Holy pageta what a bad argument .. The last vestage of the Ottoman was part of the Axis powers .. along with Japan, Italy .. and of course Germany .. Croatia .. the Catholic Church and so on

    and this has what to do with present day atrocities being committed by Israel against the Palestinians including targeting journalists it doesn't like . assassinating some .. merely persecuting others ? a pathetic deflection from reality mate .. this desperate desire to punish children for the sins of their great great great grandparents.
     
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    It must be due to a temporary loss of memory. :laughing:
     
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    Is that what they teach in Muslim schools ? In addition to hatred ?
     
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    As i often say ... the hatred and brainwashed propaganda acted by the so called "Palestinians" got many to butcher Israelis with axes and knives.
    Only a person that understands Arabs knows that the "facts" you call them are pure BS.
     
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    Are you trying to be the poster who brings up the ONE thing I have not yet heard Hunter accused of?
     
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    Your post is so full of falsehoods that it would take several volumes to debunk them all. Therefore, I'll only ask you to clarify your "Palestine's native residents" remark.
     
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    Please prove your claim that 'Israeli institution been targeting, persecuting, and killiing journalists". With less "i"s and more verbs, if possible.

    I'd also like your opinion on whether all journalists killed in conflict zones had been targeted, persecuted, and killed by state institutions.
     
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    Your previous claim that Mossad doesn't do targeted Assassinations is preposterously false .. IDF does them as well. see link and you will find plenty of killing by both.

    Jamal Mansour - High-ranking official of Hamas' West Bank political wing
    "Killed when office struck by helicopter-launched missiles[66] as Mansour was giving an interview to journalists in the Palestinian Centre for Studies and Media. 4 others killed in the room: Mohammed al-Bishawi (28); Othman Qathnani (25); Omar Mansour (28); Fahim Dawabsha, (32). Two children, aged 5 and 8, outside were also killed, and three more adults injured by shrapnel.[63] Eyal Weizman states its purpose was to derail peace talks. " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Israeli_assassinations

    The above is just one example .. the link you posted giving 19 others. Nothing like a little Israeli War crime to spice up the evening .. would you like some more !? :)
     
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    Probably - but why you asking me .. you the one should know .. sharing the Islamist Ideology.

    Israel a big time purveyor of "propaganda" - experts in the field.
     
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    Re:
    This is generally what people say when they cannot refute commonly known facts.
    I said that at this point it is premature to blame IDF or Mossad for the killing of the journalist. Is that what you consider a "falsehood"?

    In addition to spending 10 - 11 months walking and hitch-hiking around the Middle East, I have also followed its conflicts for over 50 years.
    I do not blame all Israelis for the malevolent machinations of its Right Wing extremists who destroy olive groves and other crops, steal land and demolish homes.
    I realize that some Israelis are willing to make the concessions / reparations necessary to reduce the cyclical violence but the fact that Israel's Right Wingers have used their "provoke-then-massacre"(1) M.O. to steal, persecute and destroy is a reality that predates Israel's founding.

    You asked that I clarify what I mean by "Palestine's native residents".
    As of the 1880s, Jews comprised only 2% - 3% of Palestine's population. The remainder of Christians and Muslims had been peacefully living in Palestine with resident Jews until the arrival of militant and greedy Zionist terrorist gangs from Europe and other distant lands who wanted nothing to do with the native Palestinians(2)

    As you have probably already heard, a Palestinian farmer recently unearthed part of a Canaanite sculpture(3) on his generations old farm in Gaza. I see absolutely no reason to believe that Jewish individuals from far away are more entitled to Palestinian land than the people who have lived on it for thousands of years.

    Thanks,


    (1) "Moshe Dayan, in his diaries said: "Our strategy was always to provoke the Arabs and get an appropriate response so we could attack and smash them."

    http://www.sott.net/signs/signs154.htm


    (2)Top Ten Myths about the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict”
    http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2010/06/17/top-ten-myths-about-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict/

    EXCERPT "Myth #1 – Jews and Arabs have always been in conflict in the region.

    Although Arabs were a majority in Palestine prior to the creation of the state of Israel, there had always been a Jewish population, as well. For the most part, Jewish Palestinians got along with their Arab neighbors. This began to change with the onset of the Zionist movement, because the Zionists rejected the right of the Palestinians to self-determination and wanted Palestine for their own, to create a “Jewish State” in a region where Arabs were the majority and owned most of the land.

    The British Hope-Simpson report of 1930 similarly noted that Jewish residents of non-Zionist communities in Palestine enjoyed friendship with their Arab neighbors. “It is quite a common sight to see an Arab sitting in the verandah of a Jewish house”, the report noted. “The position is entirely different in the Zionist colonies."CONTINUED


    (3) "Palestinian farmer finds 4,500-year-old goddess statue while working his land"
    https://www.cnn.com/style/article/gaza-canaanite-goddess-statue-scli-intl-scn/index.html
     
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    I can think of no other country that has such an extensive, sophisticated and heavily funded propaganda industry than Israel.
    Regrettably, Western MSM simply parrots whatever is churned out by Israel's paid, scripted and trained Hasbara trolls(1). Even Wikipedia is heavily influenced by Israel's paid propagandists(2), (3) so Wikipedia has a transparent bias when it comes to information relating to the Israel - Palestine conflict, WW 2, the holocaust and ancient Middle Eastern history.

    For more information, simply study Israel's Hasbara Handbook,(4) The Israel Project and the Global Language Dictionary.

    Thanks,





    (1) “Israeli students to get $2,000 to spread state propaganda on Facebook”
    https://electronicintifada.net/blog...ts-get-2000-spread-state-propaganda-facebook”

    EXCERPT “The National Union of Israeli Students (NUIS) has become a full-time partner in the Israeli government’s efforts to spread its propaganda online and on college campuses around the world.

    NUIS has launched a program to pay Israeli university students $2,000 to spread pro-Israel propaganda online for 5 hours per week from the “comfort of home.”

    The union is also partnering with Israel’s Jewish Agency to send Israeli students as missionaries to spread propaganda in other countries, for which they will also receive a stipend.

    This active recruitment of Israeli students is part of Israel’s orchestrated effort to suppress the Palestinian solidarity movement under the guise of combating “delegitimization” of Israel and anti-Semitism.”CONTINUED


    (2). "How Israel and its partisans work to censor the Internet"
    https://israelpalestinenews.org/israel-partisans-work-censor-internet/

    EXCERPT "As it turns out, Israel and Israeli institutions employ armies of Internet warriors—from Israeli soldiers to students—to spread propaganda online and try to get content banned that Israel doesn’t want seen.

    Campaign to infiltrate Wikipedia

    CAMERA called for volunteers to secretly work on editing Wikipedia entries. It emphasized the importance of keeping the project secret. Volunteers were schooled in ways to elude detection. After they signed up as editors, they were to “avoid editing Israel-related articles for a short period of time.”CONTINUED


    (3). “Zionist Control of WikiPedia
    http://www.ascertainthetruth.com/at...ls-the-media/429-zionist-control-of-wikipedia

    EXCERPT “And as shown in our section on Google, this Internet search-engine is well in the hands of Zionist Jews and also cooperates openly with Zionist organizations such as ADL and the Zionist Organization of America (ZOA) to control the searches and censoring information and certain sites.

    This means that apart from Wikipedia other sites may be censored when Googling any given subject.” CONTINUED


    (4) "The Israel Project’s Secret Hasbara Handbook Exposed"
    https://www.richardsilverstein.com/2009/07/10/the-israel-projects-secret-hasbara-handbook-exposed/
     
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    I think your main problem (as I've already mentioned) is your diet of propaganda and censorship that makes you think the "hatred" is one-sided and that you think demolishing Arab land and homes is no reason to hold a grudge.
     
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    Exactly -- not like some big secret that the Israel Lobby in the US is influential .. just look at the perspective of so many on this forum :)
     
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    Even more than the US?
     
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    Thank you for diagnosing my answer so accurately ... really professional :roflol:
    As I've already mentioned most hatred and violence is from the Palestinian Jihado Islamo side.
    To prove it you should find why in 2022 the UN reduced funds to UNRWA by more than 50% !
    That is a fact.
     
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    The claim that Saddam had WMDs and seeing that the US has introduced sanctions upon Russia are as legitimate as your claim about who is more violent and who hates more.
    That is a fact. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
     
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    So @Grau, what's your opinion of the media coverage of this killing? Biased in favour of Israel?
     
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    Terrorists always have a reason for what they do .... "Oh - Oh - Oh" "So - So - So" yes indeedleeedoo dare be
     
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    So you're assuming that this happened for no reason?
     
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    Everything happens for a reason .. what did you have in mind :)
     
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    So you're assuming that this happened for no GOOD reason?
     
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    Havn't heard the reason yet .. Whats a good reason to be killing a reporter .. then harrassing folks at the fellow's funeral .. You be the one doing all the ASSuming around here.
     
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