Buffalo Shooting Adds Pressure on Joe Biden to Push for Gun Control Measures

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  1. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    No it wouldn't...lol. Look him w that worked in gun control cities like NYC and Chicago.
     
  2. Condor060

    Condor060 Banned Donor

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    Contrary to what the leftist woke media has convinced you of
    1. Never in history has a gun killed anyone. They are inanimate objects.
    2. There isn't a law you can make against criminals or manufactures that will stop a criminal
    3. If you were truly concerned about people instead of just being anti gun, there are a lot more murders committed with items other than guns
    4. Which means you prefer to be controlled by your government than the people controlling government
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Khamala?? Now there's a novel idea...
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    1- We are talking about FEDERAL laws. 2- Where the hell did you get the idea that gun ownership in NYC or Chicago is "outlawed"? Your MAGA-extremist media keeps lying to you again and again, and you keep echoing their lies. And you will continue to do so in the future. So no expectation of a serious debate is warranted.

    Thanks for playing...
     
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  5. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    A simple look at the three mass shootings that occurred over the weekend, and only this one fits the narrative. Why can't we all be upset over the Chinese nationalist who shot up the devotees at the Taiwanese church again? Or the "mostly peaceful" shootings outside of the basketball arena in Milwaukee? It doesn't make sense, if all guns are bad, but aren't used by white folks...they just aren't as bad?

    One wonders at the number of significant failures of liberal government here. Two of the three mass shootings happened in states that have really restrictive gun laws already. Neither of the two shooters should likely have been legally able to purchase a gun but because the liberal states aren't that great at records, well, they slipped through the cracks again, and here we are.

    Why again wasn't the NY shooter in a mental facility again? He clearly has issues, and yet, wasn't institutionalized once he presented his psychosis in public? More, NY guns laws were supposed to not sell to flagged folks... Why wasn't dude flagged already? More, this one rants as an econazi, anti capitalist, how is this one a member of the republican party again?

    The left are awfully exposed here. Even with their pet media flogging their continue lies .....
     
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  6. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Nice straw man. Thanks for playing. Why do you keep echoing the lies of the left here?
     
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  7. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    Carrying a gun in New York City is outlawed, without a permit and only the rich and connected can get a permit. Tell us how that has worked so far at reducing shootings in NYC.
     
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    So you don't even know the difference between outlawing guns and gun control in NY.
    And you claim others are believing extreme media?
    Thats too funny
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And they are 100% right. The right to bear arms does not exist where I live.
     
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    Why did your research not show that the rifle in question met the standards of NY State and why did you not mention that it was illeagally modified.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Interesting point. Prescription drugs are far more deadly than firearms and those profiting have abundant resources to bribe, uh, I mean lobby politicians. Gun control is not from a position of concern for human life.
     
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    We're not talking about carrying a gun. You said "..a complete outlawing of gun ownership."

    Clearly you realized you had a losing case and now try to change the subject.

    My job is done. Thanks for playing...
     
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    I do think CA laws are probably too extreme, but you can have a gun in your home still.
     
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    It seems somewhat disingenuous to also not mention that the state of NY failed to put dude on the can't buy list given his obvious mental issues... but then, it is NY....
     
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    True, but if I walk outside with my gun, I am a felon. If someone breaks in and steals it, its only a misdemeanor.
     
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    It's not? Why is it, it becomes a huge issue after each shooting of human lives?

    But, IMO, the some of the problem lies with our lack of mental health care in the country. For these mass type shootings.
     
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    So, there's no hunting season for any type of game animals to put food on a table?
     
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    How did you get the gun into your house without being a felon?
     
  19. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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  20. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    I didn't say that. Maybe Condor needs to get onto you about falsifying people's posts.

    I said "Look how it worked in gun control cities like Chicago and NYC".

    Then you pointed out that gun ownership in Chicago and NYC isn't completely outlawed. Ok, fair enough, touche'.

    Then I clarified by pointing out that carrying a gun outside the home is illegal without a permit. How well has that prohibition worked? Not well. Right?
     
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    I agree. Unfortunately, mental health is viewed as a source of profit for companies selling pharma products that list "suicidal thoughts or actions" as side effects.

    To answer your question, politicians exploit tragedy for the purpose of gaining/maintaining power. Thats why this one is getting media coverage while the other 2 are all but forgotten. The vast majority of murder is committed one at a time, but does not have political value.
     
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    From the gun store, to home, to the range and back, it must be in a locked container (Not a glove compartment) separate from ammo.
     
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    You are quoting the WRONG post. I expect an apology.
     
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    Yeah......it's a NY issue. How many times has this happened? Answer.......all the time.
     
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    I think the pressure should be on Domestic Terrorism. We'll see a bill going to the Senate regarding a new DOJ division focusing solely on that subject. Of course there was pushback and a lack of support from the GOP members of Congress.
     

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