BLM founder Patrisse Cullors paid her baby father $970,000 for ‘creative services

BLM is now about as popular as a turd in a punchbowl. The Roe protesters' "summer of rage" will maybe the last nail in the Dem Party's coffin.

 

I would like to see them in prison and paying restitution.

 

However, you are missing one very important fact, the intent of the property. Yes, it is questionable and probably should be looked at in an audit. However, given the IRS budget, thanks to the GOP, it is now impossible to do that now. Congrats.

And that is exactly what the iRS was doing in 2013. Yet you guys moaned, complained, got your pink undies up in a twist, etc. And this is exactly what Paula White, Kenneth Copeland, Joel Olsten and others have done. However, I seriously doubt you will call that fraud, will you?

For most of the time for over a decade, the GOP; and for now, the Dems. However, with Biden Administration wanting to add more IRS agents to the budget, again, you guys complained about that too with the GOP willing to either filibuster the bill or amendment to add the additional personnel to the workforce or make it as hard for it to pass as possible in the omnibus reconciliation process. This is called karma. And you guys are getting exactly what you have been doing for over 10 years. Kinda to think of it, you, Bluesguy, and XXJefferson started threads on this very topic. And the main goal, the use of fear tactics that the "IRS is coming after you" argument. That 87000 is supposed to be over a 10-year period with various professionals being replaced and/or added to the existing workforce. Job titles include Revenue Agents, Revenue Officers, Tax Compliance officers, customers service representatives, submission processing clerks, IT professionals, Tax law specialists, etc. And yet, somehow, you think it's all

Here are some links for you to prove my point about the GOP and conservative groups:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/07/07/irs-taxes-budget-conservatives/

https://www.axios.com/2021/05/19/conservative-group-biden-irs-funding-infrastructure

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/05/24/conservatives-biden-irs-hiring-490479

https://www.capito.senate.gov/news/...s-agents-saying-it-will-hurt-small-businesses

You can't have this both ways Condor, no matter how hard you try.

 

When I debate about certain topics, especially what I use to do for a living, I keep my personal opinions to myself in analyzing, critiquing, and commenting on the subject. When it comes to taxes, immigration, and law enforcement, I tend to be noncommittal as to who or what I support. I have been trained, as well as my experience, to think that way.

 

Blah blah blah blah blah blah
This isn't about the IRS no matter how much you try to change the topic AGAIN
This is about BLM taking money donated to a 501-c and using it to enrich themselves.

You can't dispute what I posted so you do what YOU always do, Try and side track the conversation.
Its just a sign of desperation.

Why don't you provide me with links on how BLM has enriched (Financially) ANYONE other than themselves.
Show me black community provisions sponsored by BLM

GUARANTEED you won't

Next deflection coming in 3----2----1-----

 

Unfortunately, there might not be laws against misappropriation of donated funds, like enriching the patrons.
But I hope a civil case could be brought. What do you think would apply legally?

 

Trump and Charities did not mix either - not sure why some think charities are a personal piggy bank

 

the right can't even say Trump doing the same thing is bad, it's a comparison, what they both did was bad

the correct response, is "yep, exactly, both are bad"

 

right up there with the Tea Party

 

The correct response is that blm is a genuine terrorist organization and liars that Dems supported. Disgusting

 

what was the 1-6ers?

looks like to me per this article, BLM was a lot like the Trump family

 

I have disputed your posts in this thread each time. Whether you agree with it or not is not my concern problem, it's your problem. Furthermore, I have given my own analysis from a tax audit standpoint which showed the questionable actions of BLM foundation. I have also provided evidence that the IRS cannot, politically and with a lack of resources available, audit any 501c organization unless the evidence is extremely egregious, like what Kenneth Copeland did. The reason, the GOP mostly, whether in control of the House or a minority party, has made it clear that the IRS is not to get any additional funding to audit organizations, businesses, or individuals. And you want to ignore that because it does not fit your myopic political idealogy of a MAGA supporter. Finally, if this is questionable, so are all the other foundations who do this, especially religious 501c3 foundations. But you don't want that do you Condor?

Second, claiming fraud just because a home is bought is not evidence under the IRS rules or federal rules. For instance, Belo Foundation, a 501c organization, owns the Belo Mansion in downtown Dallas. It has also bought several luxury homes as well during its life. However, the intent of those homes was to offer business meeting space and other things within the mission statement of the Foundation. Belo Mansion is where Belo Foundation is headquartered there as well as a meeting place for the Texas Bar Association. Clearly no intent there is it?

Second, Form 990s are available to the public. You have two arms and allegedly a brain, You can request the 60 page plus Form 990 and its supporting documents and take it to a CPA of your choice and claim tax fraud. That laughing will be all the CPA laughing AT YOU because even they won't go that far. They will use words like "maybe" or "possible" or "questionable" or "not enough to tell" in their response to you.

So here's the link. It's ProPublica, an organization you despise. And have fun. All you have to do is a search and go from there. I will not do your homework for you. That is your job Condor.

 

There are, usually wire fraud, mail fraud, tax fraud, etc, both state and federal law may apply. Persons of interest that have faced legal inquiries include Robert Tilton, Todd Coonz, and Jim Bakker, just to name a few.

 

You haven't disputed anything. You can blah blah blah all you want about the IRS.
All it shows is how desperate you are to deflect from questions you are too afraid to answer.

The IRS was never the issue as much as you would like to make the issue because you can't dispute my claim.
So allow me to get back on track with the OP.

BLM founder Patrisse Cullors paid her baby father $970,000
Paid her brother $840,000 for security
Paid a fellow director $2.1m
Paid six million dollars for a mansion they purchased in cash with money that had been donated to BLM

So, are you going to provide me with what black organizations have benefited financially from BLM or just deflect like you always do
Like I said, GUARANTEED you won't
But I do enjoy you running every time the question is asked.

 

The issue with BLM 501c organization is not any or if any black organizations that benefited from BLM. That is grasping at straws here. The issue is perhaps certain questionable items from the 990 that was in the OP, your OP. But to find out if the items you listed is actually indeed tax fraud, an audit has to be performed and proven by the government. And that's the rub for you because the IRS does not have the funding. You or I saying it does not make it so legally in any court, civilian or criminal. Furthermore, the innocent until proven guilty idea in our judicial system. Or does not that apply to anyone whom you dislike in your myopic world, a very small myopic world of yours? And that is why we use the word "questionable" for the very said items I discussed in my first reply. Perhaps others will tell you exactly what I use to do for a living, but somehow you are bliss to that very concept.

Second, the IRS is a major issue. Why else does the GOP, especially conservatives, complain about giving IRS more agents and funding to do the job it is intended to do. Why use the fear tactics and other such arguments to try to get your way. In the thread about Biden proposing 87000 new agents, you were all for that idea not to give anything to the IRS. In fact, you even agreed with another poster that the IRS should be abolished completely. Yet now, you want the IRS to audit them? The reality is they can't, period, even if they wanted to because of the reasons I gave and proven to you: lack of funding and lack of agents. And you can't ignore reality with me Condor no matter how hard you try. And that is disproving your points each and every time. Your problem, is you just won't admit it or can't admit it because you literally do not know.

 

I asked one question and one question only
Deflections about the IRS have nothing to do about my question that you have refused to answer in 5 post.
What black organizations have benefited financially from BLM?

 

And I gave you the answer. To recap, here was your question: "what black organizations have benefited financially from BLM." My answer is, quite simply, that is not the issue at hand with the OP or the news article from the NYPost. The NYPost article was intended as a hit piece, trying to imply nefarious accounting practices by specifically mentioning the $970k payment for services to the father of the child of one of the co-founders, the purchases of assets including a luxury home, etc. I explained in my first response that these may appear questionable given the limited information available. To obtain tax fraud, which is the whole intent of the NYPost article would require an actual audit. To have an actual audit, the IRS, the regulatory agency charged with such methods ONLY must have both personnel and resources to do so.

I am not going to go into every detail about Form 990, but to better understand the whole point, Form 990, only shows total donations given to them with reporting disclosure requirements for a few certain donations. In terms of expenditures, the expenditures are separated by category and summarized on Form 990 with, again, certain disclosure forms being provided if related party transactions exist. That is how the NYPost obtained that information to begin with, the 60-plus page of Form 990. Anything beyond that would require a financial subpoena from the IRS by the issuing agent with which the organization must comply. That subpoena can be information with an information document request. And if refused, can be obtained through a court order signed by a judge. Accounting firms or whoever is representing the organization will prefer or oblige in 99.9% of the time. And that is where you get more details. And since I do not do that anymore, your question is impossible, but also irrelevant. it really does not matter who they give the money to, generally, as long as certain financial laws are followed.

 

Not even once did you come close to the answer.
I didn't ask you about nefarious accounting practices
I didn't ask you about the $970k payment for services to the father
I didn't ask you about the purchases of assets including a luxury home
I didn't ask you about Form 990
I didn't ask you about a financial subpoena from the IRS

So you go ahead and write pages and pages about information never requested.
Did you think you're fooling everyone with these deflections. Did you think everyone is just stupid?
You won't answer the question because you already know the answer.

I asked one simple question 6 times now.
What black organizations have benefited financially from BLM?

And the answer is NONE.
Now you can dispute it or go on one of your IRS, 990, nefarious accounting practices rampages that has nothing to do with anything I asked

 

BLM is a genuine terrorist group so to isn’t surprising to see this nonsense happening. It’s unfortunate they were supported by the left for so long. This group seems to slowly be losing influence and support though because of issues like this topic.

 

That’s makes no sense

 

Why do whites fail then?

 

You sound jelly.

 

You are apparently supportive

 

what does this have to do with what i said? How is it related to my statement?

 

No, I don't support any of the BLM actions, or any charitable organizations and non-profits, nor do I support how corporations do the same thing along with politicians yet, there is absolutely nothing I can do about it except not participate.