Australia voted in a Leftist Govt last night

It might be bullsh!t to you, but if you'd made the point of asking prior to the election, you'd know it's a common belief.

 

So they won't fix things?

 

Countries need to stop outsourcing their survival .. period.

 

It matters a great deal, because they VOTE on that belief.

 

That makes no difference to the average Progressive Leftist. They see themselves as ushering in the faux socialism they prefer (aka, money for nothing).

 

None of that would surprise me.

 

IMO, real reform will require candidates who run on transferring much of the capital and power flowing into the structures of the state to individual members of the productive working class.

Voting out the party bosses is a good first step.

 

I've carried on, but my 'activism' is strictly personal. I've changed my own life to reflect my desire to protect the environment. I don't expect a working class coal mining family to buy a Tesla and move to a $2mil urban apartment after the mine is shut down.

 

I agree with this in principle .. but it's not 1995 anymore. We the people have become rabid ideologues .. which in turn informs the parties we're allied to.

 

And then as I said promptly get disappointed because what they 'believed' to be true and voted for doesn't eventuate.

 

And then reversed again in the past 5-10 years. The Left is the less liberal, so the name Liberal for our "Conservative" party is quite apt now.

 

Pretty much.

The disappointment is in knowing how badly the middle, working and poverty classes are going to be ****ed over by a Leftist Govt in the current climate. They work well in the very best of times (which is probably why the Left is now so attractive to elites and urban sophisticates .. people who hate dirty hands and graft), but are a freaking disaster under challenge.

 

Let's hope they don't do that soul-searching on the basis of conditions that no longer exists.

Global conditions are utterly changed .. and none of the reliable metrics can be assumed now.

 

trying, like I said, it takes longer to fix things then it did to break them....

 

agree, the only thing that should be imported is things like natural resources that a country does needs

and outsourcing IT jobs is a national security risk

 

What do you think they'll do?

 

I wouldn't import anything but technology/medicine .. and only for as long as it took to start producing our own.

 

Does it need to be explained to you how importing more poor people drives down wages and leads to shortages of affordable housing in the big city areas?

 

about what exactly?

 

so if your country had no iron, you would not import it... or any other natural resource

 

Shortages of housing leads to more demand for housing and more housing being built

And don't we have minimum wage laws?

 

But that increased construction of housing does not relieve all of the demand and send prices back down to where they were before.

I can see you're not very proficient with economics, nor did you think this through very well.

Construction of new houses costs money. It is more expensive. The price of housing is going to keep rising until, at some point, it justifies the building of new homes. So that construction can be a "safety release valve" to prevent the prices from rising beyond a certain point, but it will not prevent prices from rising.
There are also limits on available space to build, in many higher demand areas. This is especially applicable to the big cities in Australia. Building up can be very expensive.

 

~ China was responsible for more than half of the new coal power station capacity being built around the world last year. They are not buying into the " climate Co2 catastrophe " nonsense .
Australia has already sealed their fate in solar/wind — just like Germany.
That's what they voted for. Good luck to them ...

{ By the way — there are not many Kangaroos in China }

https://www.reuters.com/markets/com... 24 (Reuters),fuels as economic worries mount.

 

~ Tomorrow ..? Most people already want coal, natural gas and nuclear power supply. Only politicians push "green" energy — of which there is actually no such thing.
More are becoming aware to the Co2 catastrophe nonsense and the reality of how ridiculous dependence on wind/solar is — not to mention the waste and pollution it creates.

 

I can see you're not very proficient at arguing a point in the social sciences, not do you betray a good understanding of the whole idea of dynamics. Things change and society responds. Equilibrium is disturbed and then returns, these things are independent of how much they actually cost since that's what we are discussing in the first place

You're also handling the whole idea of minimum wage regulation by simply ignoring it, that isn't the way, you're supposed to find them inflationary

And why do these things only apply to poor people who are immigrants? I suppose that next you're going to want laws prohibiting people from being poor, that's the ticket.