‘If Dems want to play this game…’DeSantis spox answers calls to tax churches over Pelosi Holy Commun

Leftists swarmed after the archbishop of San Francisco announced that he was banning Nancy Pelosi from Holy Communion, hitting Twitter to demand that the government strip churches of their religious tax exemption for such a grave insult against the mighty Speaker, and drawing a stinging response from Christina Pushaw who called for an eye for an eye rebuttal.

On Friday, Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone put Pelosi on notice that her “extreme” position on abortion as well as her ignoring his requests to speak with her about the “grave evil she is perpetrating” and the “danger to her own soul she is risking” left him little choice but to bar her from the sacred rite, as the 65-year-old religious leader gave notice of his position in a letter to the “devout Catholic.”

In his letter to the faithful on the notice sent to Pelosi, Archbishop Cordileone wrote “I have determined that the point has come in which I must make a public declaration that she is not to be admitted to Holy Communion unless and until she publicly repudiate her support for abortion ‘rights’ and confess and receive absolution for her cooperation in this evil in the sacrament of Penance. I have accordingly sent her a Notification to this effect, which I have now made public,” also posting a notice on Twitter….










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it’s about time that the archbishop did this. For too long democrat politicians who are Catholic have said they were believing members while publicly advocating positions diametrically opposed to church teachings. The woke suggested punishing the church for enforcing its belief system with its members. The press Secretary of Governor De Santis has the right idea to counter the woke.

 

That the left wants to try to punish a church for enforcing its own long held beliefs upon their own members who are of the left is so typical of them.

 

You know how it is the left in general hates Christianity in particular. Notice all these people around here that constantly mock and ridicule Christianity but don't have a single critical word to say about Islam.

The bishop should have also wrote the same letter to Joe Biden

 

In the old days the Pope would have ex-communicated her.

 

again ptoving that you approve of authoritarians and commingling of religion with government.

the position of most catholics is that abortion is a sin, and thus a matter between the sinner and her confessor.

ask this same archbishop how he handles confessions of sexual misbehavior by his celibate priests?

 

And why do you think that Archbishop chose to make this public statement now and exclusively in relation to Pelosi? Many Catholics have long made public statements that contradict strict Catholic doctrine on a range of different issues, including abortion (surveys suggest that the majority of Catholic laity accept abortion in at least some circumstances). It is undeniable that this specific statement, based on it's timing, specific target and public nature, was an entirely political one.

The resultant "whataboutisms" about the other organisations ignores a key fact. The tax-exemption used by religious organisations specifically prohibits them from engaging in politics. Other forms of tax-exemption for charities and non-profits generally don't impose such a restriction, indeed some are designed to support explicitly political non-profit organisations. And obviously, "woke" is an abstract concept rather than an organisation at all and therefore has no tax-exemption in the first place.

 

in the old days we had inquisitions and burned old women at the stake for practicing herbal medicine . but even in the old days sinners could be saved by confession and penance.

in the old days henry ii had his archbishop assassinated and was absolved by confession.

 

fake news, religious fanatics of either flavor of the Abrahamic Religions are just as bad

 

Trump I guess is more their style of Christian

 

Don't sit here and tell me it's fake news I've been on this forum several years and I see it all the time.

But I am impressed about one thing though.... You made a post with no mention of the bad orange man

 

Muslims and Christians believe in the exact same God, in fact both believe in the same Jesus too - and they are both middle eastern religions

 

But this thread is about one Christian attacking another Christian over an apparent difference of opinion on doctrine and beliefs.

Also, if a senior American Iman publicly criticised a Muslim politician for policies they had religious objections too, I've not doubt they would face infinitely more and wider criticism.

 

And, here I thought sinners were welcomed by the church. I guess I thought wrong. This is the church once again proving that they are exclusive rather than inclusive. They accept their sinners only of they have the right political conviction. Pathetic...... Jesus would turn in his grave.....

 

Yeah but if you refused penance… depending upon which “old days” we are talking about might end up with you dead lol

 

Sinners are welcome but they are expected to repent. No repentance means no acceptance.

 

First of all, the church (all denominations) accepts repentant sinners with open arms. To the Catholic Church which has members in all political parties, the issue is unrepentant sin and openly siding with evil while maintaining the charade of membership and “belief”. Joe Biden is a perfect example of such an evil one as well. Oh, and most important of all, Jesus, our savior and risen King of Kings is in no grave….

 

I hope the democrats are stupid enough to remove the churches tax exempt status. That means the church is welcome to engage in politics at every level and support candidates and policies publicly.

That’s actually exactly what this country needs.

 

Are you somehow suggesting that church members who are engaged in politics/government are somehow beyond the reproach/discipline of the church regarding the Churches core beliefs and doctrines?

 

How does this bishop know that Pelosi is not repentant? Did she confess to him?

You guys are just making up poor excuses for the church doing exactly the opposite of what Jesus would have wanted them to do. Just like embracing Trump, the epitome of all sinners. Did Trump ever repent or confess? Well, if you think he ever did, you don't know the man.

That's the problem with today's RW evangelical movement. Instead of being welcoming, accepting, all-loving, etc, they are alienating, excluding, hating.... Exactly the opposite of Jesus' teachings.

 

The moral of the story…….never get in the way of Dems wanting to kill baby’s.

 

If she were repentant she wouldn’t keep pushing it as policy.

Also I think you have a gross misunderstanding of Jesus. Jesus was welcoming to those who would be obedient to his words. He welcomed all sinners who were willing to turn their lives around and follow him. However, he was a very harsh and very forthright for the consequences of not doing what you’re told to do.

 

That is the real and true bottom line here.

 

we cathaholics do not have such a "personal relationship" with jesus,

exactly what do you consider to be the sin of pro choice politicians? none insist that women have abortions, in fact most leave that decision up to a woman, her doctor, and her own religion.

roe vs wade is not a "liberal" or "progressive" policy, merely a recognition that there are aspects of human life that is not the government's business (iaw amendments 1, 4, 9, and 14)

 

I expect that if a church official engages in politics that official should expect to have his/her politics brought up.

 

Of course they can, just like any other membership organisation.

The issue is making such a public and individual issue on this now, especially given the apparent double standard of not doing the same in relation to all the other Catholics in the public domain who speak or act against Catholic doctrine, presumably including Pelosi in the past (has she ever not been openly in favour of legal abortion?). This makes it perfectly clear that this was a targeted political statement, coinciding with abortion being in the headlines following the Supreme Court leak. That poses a potential problem for any organisation with the form of tax-exempt status which explicitly prohibits political activity.