Joe Biden: "When it comes to the gas prices, we're going through an INCREDIBLE transition"

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  1. 9royhobbs

    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    So, you admit your argument doesn't make sense. I accept your consession.
     
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    Well, that hasn't happened yet so it has nothing to do with the problem at hand. Try to keep up please.
     
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    What policy did Trump sign that raised prices after he left office? After a pandemic that screwed supply chains. After Russia started a war? Was Trump a super genius who signed a secret back door policy that would raise prices if he lost and keep them down if he won:)

    Leftists always call Trump so stupid but for some reason he is the most evil genius ever because he’s been able to accomplish truly amazing things against all odds, hehe.
     
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    You did it for me claiming the president can just lower prices lol
     
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    The OP
     
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    So....nothing Biden can do affects the price of gas....but Trump is responsible for our high gas prices.....

    And you do not see the disconnect here?
     
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    Maybe we should pay them a royalty lol
     
  8. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He can. So are you done with the gotcha set up questions?


    Why Biden energy policies have contributed to surging oil prices

    If President Joe Biden came out forcefully on the side of increasing US oil production, the price of a barrel could fall quickly, experts told The Post — even if it takes a while to bring that new energy online.

    Just look at what happened Wednesday in the wake of the United Arab Emirates and Iraq saying they’d up production by an estimated 800,000 barrels a day: The global price of oil dropped by $22 a barrel within minutes.

    If Biden signaled full-throated support for US drillers to get to work — and perhaps allowed the re-starting of the Keystone XL Pipeline from Canada — global oil prices could similarly fall sharply, the industry experts told The Post.

    “Biden could go to the oil and gas industry and say, ‘OK, I’ve said we’re going to get off oil and gas and that you guys are yesterday’s industry, but I’m going to drop that,'” surmised Myron Ebell, the director of the Competitive Enterprise Institute’s Center for Energy and Environment. “Part of the run up in oil prices is the psychology of it,” he said.

    https://nypost.com/2022/03/09/why-biden-energy-policies-have-contributed-to-surging-oil-prices/
     
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    The petroleum industry is in control of power production.
     
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    Lol the psychology. The run up in prices is based on billions in profits. It’s a price fixing cartel. We should nationalize all oil on federal land and keep it.
     
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    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cartoons-slideshow
     
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    More like blame them as enablers of the regime…
     
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    Biden is the biggest idiot ever elected to the office of the President. And all those liberals still protecting him. Makes you wonder.

    It's not poor Joey's fault. He didn't do anything!
     
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    In more detail: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/president-biden-incredible-transition-high-gas-prices
     
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    You're right Biden is the only President, since Carter, that hasn't figured out how to persuade companies to up production when the indicators start pointing to sky rocketing prices. I think you understand this and are playing a cat and mouse game. This isn't that complicated, it's not what all Biden has done it's what he hasn't done.

    Things Biden did that dissuaded production as soon as he came into office:
    Cancelled Keystone sure is doesn't hurt today but it doesn't help down the line and is a virtue signal to oil companies.
    Announced more strenuous regulation.
    Cancelled all lease sales
    These all are what you call a virtue signal that things are going to be much tougher for a business to make money here, therefore oil companies do what any business does, look for other options that won't cost as much, they're all international companies after all. He did this when demand was rising and everyone with a pee brain understood that production needed to increase or we would be where we are today. Biden was more interested in pleasing the Green lefties instead of helping Americans.
    Even today he talking about transition to alternatives, when every day Americans especially lower class minorities are talking about how they can afford tomorrow's freaking dinner. How dumb can you be, seriously.

    What Biden didn't do
    When Russia started building troops on Ukraine's border, he should have done what every President has done. Gone to OPEC, gone to all friendly oil producing countries and incentivized them to up production before he KNEW we were going to kill Russian oil imports. Again Biden, like he's done over and over, does nothing proactive and the problem blows up.
    If Biden would have signaled to the world that he was turning American oil producers loose and incentivize production, it would have had a strong market effect hence drop the price. You know we trade on future speculation right? You want an example, Iran says it's increasing production by 800k barrels a day and oil price immediately dropped $10 per barrel.

    Bottom line the President signals over and over he's going to hurt the American oil and natural production during a time that world needs America to step up and replace Russian oil and natural gas. Instead he does the opposite and boom it's going to get much worse. The green crowd is so stupid anyway, He let's get Venezuela to produce more oil, as if their drilling is as clean as ours and they don't have to ship over here on the biggest carbon polluting boats known to man. Or hey lets go to electric ignoring the real disaster coming from mining the materials for those CHINESE BATTERIES. IT'S ALL BS and a shame the feeble minded won't look behind the curtain to see what's really needed to produce these batteries and that's not even touching what happens when they are expired.
     
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    The sooner we make the transition, the better. The age of fossil fuels is coming to an end. They should only be used for what they are truly needed for, and not burned as fuel except maybe for the military. We have been foolish burning away such a precious non renewable resource for every day needs for so long. Now we are nearing the point where we will be spending more energy extracting, transporting, and refining fossil fuels than e energy we actually get from the fuel itself. It’s absurd to keep using it. It is only going to get more expensive anyway. There might be little drops here and there as we piss away more precious resources, but when it’s gone, it’s gone, and we better be ready for that.
     
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    Trump worked to lower supply during covid to raise the price

    "Trump told Saudi: Cut oil supply or lose U.S. military support"

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...se-u-s-military-support-sources-idUSKBN22C1V4

    "Trump threatens 'very substantial' tariffs on imported oil if Saudi Arabia and Russia can't reach a deal to push prices back up"

    https://www.insider.com/trump-threatens-saudi-arabia-russia-oil-tariffs-2020-4
     
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    Yet some how, some way every President except Carter and Biden figured out how to get companies to produce more when prices rose, and kept prices low. You guys are hilarious but yes I agree Biden is somehow so freaking inept that he can't get countries or American producers to increase production. He is killing the lower income earners and especially minorities but come election time I'm sure he'll promise he's for the workingman lol.
     
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    This is exactly right, it's not so much what he's done it's what he hasn't done that every President before him figured out, well except his equal Jimmy Carter.
     
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    OK then, they tried an failed, but they did kill the mandate ;)
     
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    Not true :) At this point understanding would be wasted on you :(

    Learn before you make statements ;)
     
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    Come now... Colbert has a clear conscience and is willing to pay $15 a gallon. Like he said, you just need to go out and buy a Tesla....

    Eventually, the poor are going to look at these people, like Colbert or even many on these boards and the one thing that they will see is "let them eat cake".
     
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    But what they don't consider is what happens to the price of food when farmers are having to pay that much, or more for diesel, to farm their food. Then truckers fueling the trucks to transport the food. Food is high enough now and is only going to get worse. Often time, dems and city dwellers don't understand what it takes to farm and transport. It doesn't just magically end up on packaged pretty on the store shelves.
     
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    Hence why I have never understood why metropolitan areas vote on items that only impact rural areas, like introducing grey wolves back into Colorado. The vast majority of people who live in the mountains vastly opposed this bill, but it passed because who live in Metropolitan Denver felt it'd be cool to have wolves in Colorado... As they would never be impacted....
     
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