14 students killed, 1 teacher dead in elementary school shooting

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  1. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    What a beautiful logic.

    Let's legalize murder then.
     
  2. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ok, name a law that would prevent illegal gun proliferation and murders. How would you enforce it? Stop and frisk? What?
     
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    Obviously not, but I'd bet a beer that he was in violation of the law already by having the gun, and certainly in carrying it to the school. So laws don't stop illegal shootings, obviously.

    What law would you propose that would have stopped him? Assume no 2nd Amendment obstacle.
     
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    How children are raised was brought into this topic as a possible explanation of what happened today.

    whether or not a kid, yours or anyone else’s, can get a gun is out of our control and probably a product of circumstance if the gun is obtained illegally. I don’t know anyone who could get me an illegal gun, but if I lived in the ‘hood I’m sure that would change pretty fast.
     
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    Big question. Why didn’t the gun-free law work?
     
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    For your plan? the Constitution.
     
  7. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    Look at what the Canadians, the English, the Australians, the Spanish, the Norwegians etc.... are doing.

    Are they all stupid to fight the proliferation of guns?

    They are less free than the Americans?

    The statistics on gun deaths in the US are appalling.

    Only third world countries have similar rates.

    A shame.

    While the pro 2A people try as usual to deflect responsibility for the wanton murder of 18 children and 2 teachers onto something other than the proliferation of guns in this country, the bodies are piling up.
     
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    What? Murder is illegal. Carrying a loaded gun into a school is illegal. I suspect that his possession of the gun altogether was prohibited under Texas law. We aren't proposing the rescinding of any of those laws. And yet ....
     
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    A constitution can be amended.

    And anyway, on 1/6, you were wiping your *** with the Constitution.
     
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    It is true that abolishing the 2nd amendment would empower the police to knock on every door in the USA and demand forfeiture of all guns. But no killer or psycho, especially this one, is even going to answer the door, never mind turn over his gun. So what will have been accomplished by repealing the 2nd amendment?
     
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    You left out Juarez and it’s very restrictive gun laws and insane murder rate.

    so what laws do you propose and how would you enforce them? You never did answer the question.
     
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    Sure, it can. Why don't you work on that rather than blatantly-unConstitutional schemes?
     
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    There are reports that it was a BORTAC agent that shot Salvador Ramos.

    Score another one for the Border Patrol.
     
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    Sure, but they call it "gun free" because the kids can't carry guns (its elementary school, they they are 5-10 yrs old). He was stopped by an armed officer.

    What exactly do you want to talk about? Where did you hear he was LGBT?

    The argument has been that when shooter is not pure white, then the race is a tightly guarded secret. What happened?
     
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    I'm not making light of it. I happen to think documenting its mental illness is important.
     
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    I think he's saying that having armed security makes it safe to leave your guns at home.
     
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    We have more people. Of course we're going to have more nutjobs.

    This dude was a trans, so he was really ****ed up.
     
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    Acting like you can prevent every tragedy is an exercise in self amusement.
     
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    We all know what the real difference is between Scandinavia on the one hand, and Juarez, St. Louis, Chicago, et al on the other.
     
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    All good points. This explains why mexico is so safe, right?
     
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    This is bad....too many kids:(!
     
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    Another seriously troubled young man slaughtering others. It's a heart-breaking tragedy for victims, families, and another community. I pray we will find a way to love each other instead of killing each other, and that God will heal our land.
     
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    so are you trying to tell me that the nutjobs in isis aren't as bad as the occasional nutjob here that goes off his rocker and shoots up whatever? are you trying to tell us all that the sarin attack by aum shinrikyo in japan that left 13 dead and over 5,000 injured wasn't as bad as some kid with a handgun? madmen are everywhere, we just like to use them as political pawns here and people like you are more than willing to jump on the bandwagon.
     
  24. Le Chef

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    Can't wait to hear President Biden lay this one at the feet of white supremacy, or racism of any other flavor.
     
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    The shooter was a Mexican tranny. They're going to have blame the gun.
     
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