14 students killed, 1 teacher dead in elementary school shooting

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    If by Prohibition you mean repeal the 2nd Amendment and stringently license gun possession and use then I say All Aboard

    Prohibition was a law making alcohol illegal and when you add that most drugs were illegal too the the basic thrust of it was very clearly to outlaw fun. Most people don't consider fun inherently bad but they see gun's only real purpose, killing things, as a necessary evil at best.
     
  2. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So now we limit our rights based on something that might happen? I really wish, truly I do, that you would apply that logic to illegals. You know they’re going to kill people, either on purpose or while driving drunk, and if I proposed keeping them out based on the certainty that deaths will occur because of them, but we don’t know which ones, you be all over my ass like Biden on a 12 year old.
     
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  3. George Bailey

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    Saw a picture of the creep. Can guarantee dad wasn't around.
     
  4. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    What rights are those?
     
  5. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    It works in Canada, France, UK, Norway, Spain, Italy, Australia, Japan etc...

    But it doesn't work in El Salvador, Somalia and Bangladesh.

    So, given that the US is as poor and socially backward as those countries, a Republican tells me it can't work.

    But I understand your position.

    Considering that 18 of the 20 poorest US states are red, it makes sense that you would compare the US with Mexico.
     
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    A lot of text here, with no admission you were wrong.

    Why not just admit you are okay with the ever increasing risk of mass attacks at any time so that you can have your unlimited gun rights?

    Schools will NEVER allow more than security forces to have guns on school grounds. They will pull their children rather than risk an unstable teacher, volunteer, or child to get their hands on the gun and start shooting.

    No morality laws. Everyone sinking to the lowest common denominator of greed/selfishness, and EVERYONE has guns?

    **** no. No way in hell I trust ANYBODY I don't know outside of my family, co workers, and friends to have a gun in close proximity to my YOUNG nieces and nephews.
     
  7. Arkanis

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    How many mass shootings do illegals commit each year?
     
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  8. George Bailey

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    One solution is to bring back the death penalty.
     
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  9. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Illegals have other purposes. Purposes we couldn't get along without.

    https://www.bushcenter.org/catalyst...y/benefits-of-immigration-outweigh-costs.html
     
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  10. Arkanis

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    Stop, you'll make me cry.

    Can't you live without your guns?
     
  11. Polydectes

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    Absolutely not. Why should I? Does me being armed scare you?
     
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    Everytime one of these Mass shootings happen, Liberals start yapping their gums about Gun control. How bout we start with Criminal control FIRST! start locking up these Shitbags for LIFE WITHOUT the possibility for parole or Executing them, instead of this Liberal revolving door catch and release lovathon they have for Criminals and their soft on crime policies. Once Liberal Democrats PROVE! they're serious about the epidemic of illegal Gun Crime in America and prosecuting them to the fullest extent of the law or making laws that will scare the **** of these criminal monsters, then come talk to us LEGAL! LAW abiding Gun owners that believe in the 2nd amendment and want to be able to protect ourselves in this DeFund the Police society they've created. Go after the Criminals first, then come talk to us lawful Gun owners later about creating a safer society. F'in Liberals, always doing **** Ass backwards
     
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  13. Steve N

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    So their murders are ok.

    And there it is folks, they used to say if it saves just one life. Now it’s ok because the people we are absolutely certain will commit crimes, rapes and murder have other purposes.

    Guns have other purposes, too.
     
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    2 teachers last I heard.
     
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    You also can't guarantee that a Communist Liberal Socialist Government like the one currently occupying the White House and controlling Congress won't go crazy in the future, because is sure looks like they have a good start on CRAZY! right now.
     
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    Well, for starters, you were the one who said Treyvon had a gun and some other stuff. I merely disputed all of that. So yeah, I left out a few details, but that was not in your post.

    Let me put it to you this way. I believe in what Juror B37 said about the trial, "I think George Zimmerman is a man whose heart was in the right place, but just got displaced by the vandalism in the neighborhood and wanting to catch these people so badly he went above and beyond what he should have done." Also, she said in the initial interview that the vote was split. three wanted to acquit, two for manslaughter, and one for second-degree murder. It eventually agreed that all voted to acquit. Thus, half didn't did not want to be there at all and the other three wanted to get out of there as fast as possible.

    I think Zimmerman wanted to be a cop so bad that he wanted to find anyone about the thefts. This was a bad case no matter how you look at it and because of the case, Zimmerman will never police officer at all, not even a security guard in most cases. Thank God. Treyvon had every right under Florida Law to defend himself and so did Zimmerman. But Zimmerman assumed and really didn't know squat.
     
  17. Arkanis

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    The fact that you can't live without your guns is disturbing.
     
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    The best way to reduce violence is to decisively and strictly control violent content on social networks and in the media (movies for example),
    Ban the distribution of violent computer games to children, to prohibit pornography etc.
    Media is the source of all the trouble.
     
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    That is profoundly inaccurate
     
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  20. Arkanis

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    Before killing 19 children, the guy had committed no crime.

    He bought two AR-15 legally.

    Do you have anything else clever to suggest?
     
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    Support? It wouldn’t determine my vote but I wouldn’t care much.
     
  22. Polydectes

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    Emotional pleading in order to gain power. Give up your guns for safety daddy government will take care of you.

    I don't see them saving these 14 people that were murdered.

    It's not about safety that's the lie.
     
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    Not the same thing, quite literally. So, he can't pose with a gun because what? He is black? No gun in the incident itself and since Zimmerman and Martin never knew each other or were acquaintances, no reasonable person will know that was the case when the picture was taken and put on social media.
     
  24. Polydectes

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    So what stops him from killing 19 children of I'm not allowed to legally own a gun?
    So if he bought them illegally they'd be less dead? Explain.
     
  25. Thedimon

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    No, that’s technology and personal freedoms. The society should not have to learn to live with such taboos.
     

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